Microsoft Office 2007 Ultimate...60 bucks

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  1. pencil Banned Banned

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    Usually, the retail version goes for about $299-600. Microsoft is having a special student discount where you can get the full ultimate version for $60. Your univ/institute may have it for like $20 BUT that is the "basic" version and not the ultimate.

    http://www.theultimatesteal.com/home.asp
     
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    Office 2007 is way ahead (light years) from OpenOffice. Open Office is less user-eccentric AND slow because it runs under Java. Productivity-wise: Word 2007 > Open Office.
     
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    Maybe, but I've never needed anything more than OpenOffice, besides I use Linux.

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    I wrote my bachelor paper on it, and now am writing my masters.
     
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    When OpenOffice is installed on my system, it takes 30 seconds for the Welcome screen to load (vista x64, quadcore).
    Also, several times, my class documents got corrupted and the professor was unable to open them (I saved as the MS doc format).

    OpenOffice sucks in my opinion.
     
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    I use OpenOffice, in fact I swear by it. If it was up to me everyone would use it and therefore no corruption of documents from saving in a format that isn't native to it.

    I find that OpenOffice saves vast spreadsheets in a smaller format than Excel because of the use of Java. I utilised it fully when I use to play EVE-Online and ran a Company building various spacecraft/components. I had the ability to enter the vary resources at their base level, apply the character levels and work out the overall price range of production and of course sales. This made a very productive and competitive business model.

    The same sheet done in Excel would of been extremely large in storage size, it wouldn't of had the same functionality (especially in regards to updating a SQL server that I was injecting through OpenOffice)

    I guess it's "to each their own", I like the affordability and the fact that the upgraded version doesn't cost either.
     
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    You cannot use the smaller size format as an argument in an age where disk space is abundant. Also, the use of Java makes it slow as Java isn't native to Windows as it is to Solaris. Office also opens faster and consumes less RAM (which isn't an issue) than OpenOffice.

    When opening very large documents/spreadsheets, it's proven than Office 2007 is way faster than OpenOffice.
     
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    It shouldn't be about nativity, Open Office can be installed on numerous different platforms generate cross platform compatibility, this is something Microsoft's programs can't do and this generates a logistical nightmare if you are dealing with vast number of inputs from varying sources. (Imagine if you worked inside a network backbone where you use a spreadsheet to maintain certain data but you have to keep running back to one computer in an office or your own windows installed laptop because you can only use Excel)

    Disk space might be abundant on your PC, but what of your Palmtop OS with it's native Java usage? Obviously you could have the Microsoft Palm OS with it's Palm Office version and this all wreaks of expense in both resources and cost.
     
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    If my main machine is a Windows PC then the majority of my other PCs are also Windows, it's logical to do that. Maybe 1 or 2 might be a MAC or a Linux.

    Palms and Pocket PCs for Word Processing is inefficient and very unproductive (infact, they are NOT made for that task). For that purpose, you'd either get a Laptop or a Tablet PC. They are made for that task and has enough resources and power to handle word processing.
     
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    Some environments require smaller tools for the job, for instance floating around on the bottom of the ocean while inputting data in regards to oceanography would hardly make sense wrapping a laptop up in clingfilm. Admittedly the equipment usually used is PLC made, however it's easier to adapt Java to such projects over Microsoft programs.

    At the end of the day it doesn't matter which you use as long as it does the task you require it to do and your happy with it. I'm merely trying to point out that it's not a single data solution as it's requires the Compatibility Requirements to be met.
     
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    If you require smaller tools for the job, then in such a case, it would become specialized for that hardware. In your case, mapping data in oceanography, you'd use a specially made device for recording and analyzing data.

    My point: Office 2007 is the only way.
     
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    Some inaccuracies.
    Open office does not run under java. It has a dependency on the JRE for certain functions, but the vast, vast majority of its code is C.
    Java is not native to Solaris. Solaris is an operating system. Unless it runs on a CPU that uses byte code for its machine instructions, java will not be native. You need a virtual machine to run java on Solaris which is either SPARC or x86 based.

    It is not particulary fair to evaluate the quality of an application based upon its ability to confirm its output to a non-open proprietary specification. However, it compares favourably to MSOffice's interoperability. Open office has an open format and MS has only just got round to supporting that.
    The format size is still reasonably relevant, people often post documents to the web and don't want the unnecessary bandwidth. Organisations archive large collections of documents and don't want to buy more storage space than necessary. If you are automatically generating documents for some application, then you want to do as little IO as possible.
     
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