Is Physics A Religion?

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  1. DeepThought Banned Banned

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    "The universe is built on a plan the profound symmetry of which is somehow present in the inner structure of our intellect"

    - Paul Valery
     
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  3. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    subjective perception != subjective reality

    besides thinking is energy, hammer is energy, no difference.
    a hitting hammer is a lot more energy though -> e=mc^2

    so apparently it seems that you don't know what dreams are
    nothing is "inside" our consciousness, consciousness is, and that's all
     
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  5. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    "Paul Valery is full of shit."
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  7. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Please explain how any one of those individuals used gods, chimeras and faeries to demonstrate their achievements?
     
  8. DeepThought Banned Banned

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    I think Valery's observation is a profound insight into the reflective nature of the human mind.
     
  9. Klippymitch Thinker Registered Senior Member

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    Far more scientific than physics!

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    lol I was cracking up when I read that.
     
  10. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    What a strange question to ask in this era. Physics keeps becoming more and more like mathematics: pure reasoning about logical abstractions. It is about as far from religion as one can get, which is pure imagination about illogical fantasies.
    He has been warned and infracted before. He just keeps popping up like a Whack-a-Mole. I think this discussion would be appropriate on the Philosophy board, but Oils just doesn't have the rhetorical and debating skills to survive there. So he just keeps pestering the scientists.
    Again, string theory is getting close to the line between physics and mathematics. It is not like religion.
    He can't distinguish between criticism and hatred. I'd be happy to change the name of the website if it would keep the Religious Redneck Retards away.
    Huh? What a colossally strange thing to say. The ONLY evidence we have about the world is physical. Just exactly what other kind of evidence is there??? The whole rest of your post is the result of invalid reasoning. Are you a friend of his or something?
     
  11. Carcano Valued Senior Member

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    This thread probably would have been better off if there was an initial distinction made between those areas of Physics that can be verified by physical experimentation, and those areas which can only be investigated through mathematical speculation.
     
  12. SkinWalker Archaeology / Anthropology Moderator

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    The point of the OP wasn't to create intellectual discourse but rather an ad hominem against the proponents of science. Ironically, the former member who was the OP resigned his membership after it became apparent that the majority of the Sciforums members rejected his particular brand of superstition. His last comment was an attempt to transfer blame for his inability to fit in to the minds of reason who declined to conform to his delusions.
     
  13. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    Physics is useful.
    Take Electromagnetic theory for example, it may just be a theory and maybe some parts are not proven but it has been used again and again and again and has revolutionized mankind.
     
  14. Yorda Registered Senior Member

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    it's impossible to prove that there is an external physical world independent from your senses/consciousness... so the world must be mental/spiritual.

    so is religion. physics is useful for the world, religion is useful for individuals.
     
  15. ghost7584 Registered Senior Member

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    If you ever studied logic there is a margin of error in inductive reasoning. The scientific method is based on inductive reasoning. Because something happens the same way in all known cases, inductive reasoning says there is a high probability it will happen the same way again. But it is not definite that it must happen the same way again. Believing that it must happen the same way again is like a religious belief. Some scientists have this religious belief which is really not definite and has a margin of error. Paranormal occurences such as miracles and psychic phenomena, show that at times it will happen a different way.
    Deductive reasoning is absolutely reliable with no margin of error. If you know that it happened a certain way in a specific number of cases, then you are sure it happened that way in any one of those cases.
     
  16. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    But does that then not make it unscientific? How can it be falsifiable?
     
  17. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    Physics doesn't cover the whole of philosophy. Religion does.

    Physics doesn't have a systematic philosophical viewpoint on aesthetics, ethics, or anything else besides a vague Naturalist view on metaphysics.

    Physics is a branch of science, which is the systematic method through which one describes, evaluates, and analyses reality. Science is not a religion. It is not a philosophy. It is the method one uses to evaluate reality.
     
  18. charles brough Registered Senior Member

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    No problem! Physics and indeed all science is a set of rules as how to accumulate the most accurate understanding of ourselves and the world about us. All we have in our heads is BELIEF, not "absolute Truth"! That is why physics, science in general CHANGES. The difference is that science belief becomes more accurate while each religion stays much the same.

    Should each religion become more accurat also? No, each religion has to stay the same so that its believers have a constant, fixed, set of beliefs that hold their society together and give them a sense of unity, of wholeness. We are, after all, social animals and need to feel part of the group or society in order to minimize stress and hostility.

    charles, http://humanpurpose.simplenet.com
     

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