Saudis punish victim of gang rape

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  1. Xev Registered Senior Member

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  3. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    True and women are repressed and treated unequally in ALL polygamist societies.
     
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  5. Sock puppet path GRRRRRRRRRRRR Valued Senior Member

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    I was thinking more along the lines of general repression of human emotions etc.
    In trying to set the bar so low as to avoid all temptation in the first place only sets the bar lower regarding when such things occur. I have had some interesting experiences with middle easterners who were exposed to norway in the summer

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    they basically had no mechanism for coping with what for norweigans was everyday.
     
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  7. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    really? What happened?

    I noticed many, not all but many, guys from the ME are uncomfortable around women. They don't seem to know how to be "friends" with women. I mean just friends. And many of them say these snide generalizations about women. "All women use sex .. bla bla bla..." It's really sad. BUT, then I have buddies who are second generation who it depends on. The ones that are NOT very religous, like to go out for drinks etc..., act perfectly normal - the ones that ARE religous - they act almost as bed as the guys straight from the ME.
     
  8. Sock puppet path GRRRRRRRRRRRR Valued Senior Member

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    Hypnotized, telltale stains, unrespondent stares, cameras ablazin' a general mess. I guess the point is a more scantily clad society is not by definition a less moral society so long as everyone conforms to the norms. I would postulate that a society that sets the threshold as low as the saudis is prone to breakdown at a lower level (as in the examples I mentioned).
     
  9. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    Eeeuuuuu! Disgusting

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  10. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    I saw a documentary once about Saudi girls that like to strip on their webcam homepages. Dunno if it's related.
     
  11. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    The attorney, Abdulrahman al-Lahim, had his license revoked last week by a judge for speaking to the Saudi-controlled media about the case.

    I wonder if that will have more affect than the woman being punished.
     
  13. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    And someone was posting here just the other day what a wonderful place KSA. Well actually the who ME is wonderful, except iraq oh and afghanistan oh and KSA if you're a woman or a chrisitan or a gay or a hindu or a .... and Pakistan is great unless you're a woman or a hindu or a gay or a .... oh Palestine is .. well wait Lebanon is .. Turkey? Egypt? Now Iran is really great unless you are a Jew or gay or a women ..
     
  14. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    All countries are wonderful if you stay within their laws. Its your choice whether you wish to change the country or agitate to change the laws.

    Sometimes, its a boon to be poor, overpopulated, illiterate and without oil. People leave you be to develop normally.
     
  15. jlocke Registered Senior Member

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    To just repeat what Michael stated, not if you're a woman/gay/Jewish whatever the case may be. They could stay within the laws and still have a shitty time, because that's what those laws are supposed to do.
     
  16. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    So does that mean that First World nations shouldn't help with medical and food supplies to the Third World nations? ...and they shouldn't help educate the young, promising people of those nations? ...and that in case of major disasters, they should not provide help and supplies?

    Interesting comment, Sam, but I think your idealism has gone a bit far.

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  17. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    Or a woman raped for 5 hours by seven men in KSA.
     
  18. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    One could probably say the same of any redneck place in the US.
     
  19. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    It is not law in any place in the US, redneck or not, or anyplace else in the world, save a few countries confined to a north-Equatorial belt in Africa and Asia.
     
  20. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    To convict people for breaking state laws?

    its like saying you don't think such and such should be a law, (like carrying weed for instance), but if you're caught and convicted, your beliefs don't matter much.

    The ideal would be to change the law to something more in line with what you think it should be, which requires more social awareness and action than those people are currently willing to invest in. Its good that the lawyer showed initiative though.
     
  21. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    To have laws mandating the specific conduct of women in the presence of men. Perhaps the redneck south US is not so enlightened as Saudi Arabia, of course.
     
  22. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    From what I have seen of rape threads on this very forum, the thinking is not very different.
     
  23. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    That is debatable: fortunately, the laws are more humanitarian here.
     

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