is this natural

Discussion in 'The Cesspool' started by Nebula, Oct 3, 2002.

  1. Nebula Occasionally Frequent Registered Senior Member

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    I've come to a conclusion: NOTHING is "unatural". Homosexuality can't be called unatural because it happens, therefore it is natural. Does anyone see what I'm getting at? Does anyone dare oppose me?

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  3. Platipus Modern Realist Registered Senior Member

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    Homosexuality is an act which is condoned by nature, true. Though a penalty by nature is the inability to reproduce, therefore the dissentegration of genes, as there are no offspring to continue the pool.
     
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  5. Nebula Occasionally Frequent Registered Senior Member

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    Homosexuality wasn't a very good example for me to use because it has (for the most part) become socially acceptable. What if I were to use pedophilia as an example? Would anyone take me seriously if I stated that pedophilia is not unnatural? It may be uncommon or socially unacceptable, but that doesn't mean it's unnatural does it?

    -Kyle

    BTW, how do you spell "un-natural?" I'm too lazy to look it up

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  7. bbcboy Recovering christian Registered Senior Member

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    Homosexuality is merely natures way of ensuring the truly gifted are NEVER burdened with children.

    As for natural? I tire of explaining this again. Check the archives it'll be under

    'same ol same ol'

    let's talk about why heterosexual men with foreskins rarely wash underneath them. Should we blame the parents?

    I understand that to most americans this subject is moot. empathise!
     
  8. esp Registered Senior Member

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    Nebula:
    NOTHING is "unatural". Homosexuality can't be called unatural because it happens, therefore it is natural.


    Choose any animal.

    Imagine anything it can or does do.

    Can any of these actions be described as unnatural?

    Is man not an animal?


    Sound thinking

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  9. Tyler Registered Senior Member

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    George Carlin went on a slightly-related nice little rant. He was talking about a valid point in how environmentalists are dumb-arses and he started talking about plastic. He said surely if we all have a purpose than man has a purpose. And what was his purpose? Plastic! And now that the earth has the plastic she wanted, she will dispose of us. How? By a human immuno-deficiancy virus!

    Anyway, while this may be a valid point it's useless. The only people you need to argue homosexuality to is religious folk. And logic don't matter in that arena.
     
  10. Nebula Occasionally Frequent Registered Senior Member

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    I love George Carlin! He's unaturally funny!
     
  11. Platipus Modern Realist Registered Senior Member

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    it is spelled 'unnatural'

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  12. machaon Registered Senior Member

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    I would.

    I would dare oppose you...if you were not 100% correct. Which, of course, you are in this case.
     
  13. prozak Banned Banned

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    Complete semantics runaround...

    Homosexuality is natural, with a natural consequence of oppression of homosexuals who attempt to integrate into the mainstream of an animal social group.

    So what have we proved?

    Language as labyrinth.
     
  14. Nebula Occasionally Frequent Registered Senior Member

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    I'm not exclusively talking about homosexuality, I merely used it as an example because most of us are familiar with the Christian stance: homosexuality goes against how God designed us and is thus unnatural.

    And prozak, I realize my original comment may have been a bit circular

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    It's like the classic 3 bandit scenario:

    Bandits 1&2: Why did you get 5 pearls while we only got two each?

    Bandit 3: Because I'm the leader.

    Bandits 1&2: What makes you the leader?

    Bandit 3: I have the most pearls.
     
  15. prozak Banned Banned

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    Hehe.

    Christianity is unnatural. I'm no big fan of excessively sexual behavior however.
     
  16. bbcboy Recovering christian Registered Senior Member

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    Christianity is unnatural. I'm no big fan of excessively sexual behavior however.

    Prozac'll do that to ya every time !!!

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  17. Adam §Þ@ç€ MØnk€¥ Registered Senior Member

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    Homosexuality: The only people this really matters to are those with too much free time and too much interest in other peoples' affairs. Screw it. It realy doesn't matter. Will it really make your dinner taste better or your gas bills cheaper if some political lobby group goes one way or another on this? Who the fudge cares?

    Natural vs Unnatural: Nature tries everything, it seems to me. Within certain physical laws (which I personally think we are just beginning to nail down right now), Nature tries everything. One way or another, throughout the universe, all sorts of stuff happens by chance or design now and then. Endless variety is natural. So is stasis, when one of those varieties results in something stable and functional. Yin and yang dudes. Chaos and order, stability and flux. Everything is natural.
     
  18. Atilla Registered Member

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    Natural?

    Shouldnt you first define exactly what is unatural by you statements?
    Wouldnt something be unatural only if it is synthetic?
    Is anything truly synthetic? Once it exists, does it not then become natural? If a thing is not made by nature, then is it unatural?
     
  19. Atilla Registered Member

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    Ouch...

    Pardon the lousy spelling and grammar, I'm at work and doing 4 different thing at once, this doesnt fell natural at all....
     
  20. prozak Banned Banned

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    ...including calling something "unnatural" and putting pink triangles on it.
     
  21. Adam §Þ@ç€ MØnk€¥ Registered Senior Member

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    Absolutely. Man, I'm so friggin drunk, and late for maths.
     
  22. prozak Banned Banned

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    I think wanting to kill the useless is an intelligent and wholly natural response.

    And there are many useless... like 2/3 of humanity.
     
  23. Buddha1 Registered Senior Member

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    The world 'unnatural' is loaded word meant to judge and condemn. It is an invention of Christianity, and especially in the context of homosexuality what they really mean is that it is socially unacceptable.
    The word is today also wrongly used in other contexts, e.g., "unnatural death". Now death cannot be unnatural. When a person dies because of say, stabbing, it is a perfectly natural response of the body to a lethal attack. If the attack is Lethal, and the person does not die, that would be 'unnatural'.
     

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