If you could erase one religious figure from history, who would it be?

Discussion in 'Religion Archives' started by Why?, Sep 21, 2007.

  1. Carcano Valued Senior Member

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    No...that was Paul.
     
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  3. clusteringflux Version 1. OH! Valued Senior Member

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    So Jesus wasn't born to a jewish mother and her husband? Get a clue,clown.
     
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  5. Carcano Valued Senior Member

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    Why would being born of a Jewish mother mean he split from the Jews?
     
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  7. s0meguy Worship me or suffer eternally Valued Senior Member

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    Does god count as a religious figure? I think I'll go for that.
     
  8. John99 Banned Banned

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    Well you are entitled to your opinion but i think you are way off the mark.

    Being addicted to drugs is, for the most part, always relevant and then there is the type of drug. The people you mention most likely took drugs for pain but with Hitler he was getting injected with speed every day. The drug itself causes delusions and is unique in the way it effects the brain. I am using very good sources on this and it is not like i am making it up.

    Mussolini was a very different person than Hitler and i think he had plans that were not really focused on the elimination of entire races of people at all. Towards the end being a narcissist he could not admit how wrong he was but he knew he was in a lot of trouble anyway and was not going to get off easy. He may have had some religious belief but we are talking about two very different people here.

    If you were creating a profile on leaders who systematically eliminate groups of people with no mercy then the last conclusion you would come up with is the presence of religion in their motivation.

    Aside from what what was told to the people to give the impression of a noble purpose or some form of camaraderie the fact is that the Nazis were not only targeting Jewish people and even Holocaust survivors dont see any religious motivations behind it at all because there was none.

    Well that is what i have found in all my research on the subject. I do not doubt that some books were referenced, distorted and used in a n evil manner but the bible certainly was not one of them.

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  9. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    Karl Marx. The Atheist religion is responsible for more murders than Islam and Christianity combined.
     
  10. Carcano Valued Senior Member

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    Marx invented atheism...and its a religion???
     
  11. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    Of course.
    Didn't you know there were definitely no atheists before Marx founded our church?
     
  12. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    Hey, I am an atheist and even I know better!! Actually, Lot's daughters raped HIM! They made him drink wine and he was half asleep, that's how the story goes, hardly a rape by your standard....

    Hm, so many accusing women here. So the poor guy was responsible for being taken advantage of???? This is the worst guy in the Bible you ladies could pick?

    I understand Orleander, because she didn't know the story correctly, but you...
     
  13. oreodont I am God Registered Senior Member

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    Same here. If the bastard per chance exists then he can rot in his own Hell.
     
  14. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    Says who? I said he's the one religious figure I would erase from history.

    Yes. Both the 7th District Court of Appeals and The Supreme Court (Torcaso v. Watkins 1961) have ruled that Atheism is a religion.
     
  15. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    "For the purposes of the first amendment only", neh?
     
  16. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    Insofar as religion is a belief system so too is Atheism. Atheists believe the universe just happened miraculously without a First Cause. Furthermore they don't believe in Absolute Biblical Morality but a choose your own morality like Hitler or Charles Manson.
     
  17. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    Notthis again.
    It's a dis-belief.
    A non-belief.
    A lack of belief.

    There is no belief.

    Atheism says "we don't know and we aren't going to assign a cause until we have more information".
     
  18. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    You're thinking of Agnosticism which is also a religion.

    Atheism says "we do know that God doesn't exist."
     
  19. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    Wiki.
    Absence of belief....
     
  20. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    Just as it's impossible to do nothing, absense of belief is nevertheless still a belief. But Atheism is much more than the absense of belief, in fact it's the explicit religious denial of various specific world views and the metaphysical assertion that God does not exist.
     
  21. ronan Only Consciousness Exists Registered Senior Member

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    Descartes
    why?
    because he made so many people believe in the existence of an unconscious substance that is supposed to determine our life.
     
  22. PsychoticEpisode It is very dry in here today Valued Senior Member

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    God...time to butt out for good. From something solid like the Sun, to congregating at the top of Mount Olympus, becoming a cow and other beasts to existing in an incomprehensible heaven, He is slowly getting pushed back. Did I hear He is now in another dimension?
     
  23. Creeptology Registered Member

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    I'd erase Isaac Newton. Nothing against him or his views or any built on his foundations but it would create havoc and have terrible repercussions on modern day science, that's why I choose him, maximum damage choice.
     

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