I don't exist

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by Cortex_Colossus, May 26, 2008.

  1. iirodsm Registered Member

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    we are all existing, even if only in our own mind, in a sliver of a corner of a universe in a jar in some distant mold on a tree next door to nothing...
     
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  3. Muslim Immortal Valued Senior Member

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    All existence is made of our consciousness. According to me you exist as I am concuoiness to experience the effects of your existence.
     
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  5. ronan Only Consciousness Exists Registered Senior Member

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    There are two kind of existence:

    1) existence IN consciousness : perception

    2) existence of consciousness (= god)

    so we are the first kind of existence, the one we use in every day life, I exist you exist, this table exists...

    every objects exists as 1)
    only consciousness exist as 2)

    but in 1) we have the capacity somehow to deny existence: oh it was just an illusion, a dream....

    while 2) we cannot deny,
    indeed consciousness exists and nobody can reject that

    thus 2) is absolute existence which is god

    so contrary to xvortexbladex I would say that the existence of god (consciousness) cannot be denied while the existence of our own particular set of perceptions assumed to constitute ourself can always be rejected (in fact we do it everytime making us evolving, growing, aging...).

    but I would agree with iirodsm saying that indeed because perceptions exist we exist (just as every object exist) but our existence are instantaneous.
     
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  7. Cortex_Colossus Banned Banned

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    ronan I hate you.
     
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  8. Cortex_Colossus Banned Banned

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    Ronan you are making yourself a fool, "absolute existence, which is god"???
     
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  9. Cortex_Colossus Banned Banned

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    Everything takes place in consciousness, but consciousness is not experienced. The consciousness can be conscious of itself. That is when consciousness experiences itself. Usually, this purity of consciousness is brought about by being as happy as one can. Not necessarily thinking happy thoughts but also by not living with bad thoughts. Pure consciousness is not separate from the physical body, it is the entire nervous system functioning with the brain to make an interpretation of the sense information that is interaction in the environment. It is not of some magical source that is single. It is experienced universally but the interpretation of objects, including the self, is entirely by the psyche, which carries a set of beliefs based on memories, which directly influence the perception of self and it's arbitrary relations to time and space.
     
  10. ronan Only Consciousness Exists Registered Senior Member

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    consciousness is god, consciousness has an absolute existence meaning that it is no relative, always true

    god because in the past many mystic talk of god like we are now talking about consciousness,

    not a big deal.
     
  11. ronan Only Consciousness Exists Registered Senior Member

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    when the 'I' hate the 'you' 'I' hate in fact itself.
     

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