Israel Prepares To Avert Nuclear Holocaust

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  1. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Like the gulags of Stalin or the Cambodian slaughters?

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    Don't underestimate the fervor of atheists.

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  3. Mr. G reality.sys Valued Senior Member

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    I see you wholeheartedly support denial.

    You may exhibit predatory pretense from behind the curtain, but you are not a capable predator.

    You're just another pedestrian shill.
     
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  5. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    What are you saying?
    Sure it might not exist without religion, but technically most of society as we know it would be far different without religion as well. Religion played an important part in the development of civilization.
     
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  7. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    true but the age of religion has passed
     
  8. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    50% of the world still follows Abrahamic religion. 85% of Americans believe in God. 40-50% of Brits believe in God. 90%+ of Italians, Spanish, Swiss, Portugal, Belgium, Ireland, still believe in God, with significant percentages in other European nations.

    No, religion is still around and strong except for China and Russia and the former Soviet states and east asian nations.
     
  9. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    its still around but it is no longer the main cultural force.
     
  10. Balerion Banned Banned

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    Norse,

    Check your history books, and turn on a cable news channel sometime. Religion is the main cause of violence and oppression in the world, and always has been.

    Christopher Hitchens once said "Show me an act of kindness that cannot be done by a man without faith; now show me an act of evil that can be done only in the name of religious faith."
     
  11. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    And personally I'd rather be a dhimmi in the caliphate than a skeleton in an atheist dystopia.
     
  12. Prince_James Plutarch (Mickey's Dog) Registered Senior Member

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    OilIsMastery:

    Then you should know that the Jews are no longer God's chosen people. They are Christ killing Pharisees, as explained throughout the New Testament.

    God has long abandoned the Jews. The only thing the Jews have to look forward to is Hellfire, according to Christian dogma.
     
  13. Prince_James Plutarch (Mickey's Dog) Registered Senior Member

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    Also, if you are a European, or whatever actually, I beg you to remember the God of your ancestors, and not the foreign God of another people. It is slavish to worship at the altar of aliens.
     
  14. Kadark Banned Banned

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    Arguing with you is futile. In case you haven't noticed, Israel is the one demanding these wars against Iraq, Iran, and Syria (yes, your very own country). Besides, I've already told you that Ashkenazi Jews are not Semites, yet you insist their "culture" is similar. Well, how about the Turkish and Persian culture? They seem similar to the rest of the Middle East, even if they aren't Semites. What I'm gathering from you in this thread is that you're much more interested in forming an alliance with a nation that hates you than with the nations who share your goals and ambitions. Oh, and as for "The same little Syria that dominated the entire region, and more, for over 700 years": that was then, this is now. Turkey's soccer team alone could defeat Syria's army.

    Care to explain? Like I've said before, it isn't religion that divides the region. Almost all of the Middle East is Sunni Muslim, yet even they don't get along with each other.
     
  15. otheadp Banned Banned

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    Just because you're using stronger language doesn't make your point any less false. The reason why I don't keep throwing the facts out there is because fanatics like yourself and several others on this board make no difference what so ever on whether these facts are true or not. Yours and others' foaming at the mouth responses (which are sometimes disgusting and anti Semetic) are entirely predictable so I won't waste my time arguing.

    The only reason that Israel is in such a predicament that they're thinking of giving away so much land and even Jerusalem is because Israelis are too nice, trying to meet the clueless world's approval. It is because Israelis are not as fanatical as their enemies that their concerns aren't taken seriously. Gaza and "West Bank" are not "occupied territory", they're disputed, at worst, and Jewish by right. If at all they are occupied, is by this "people" that call themselves "Palestinian", and they should leave. Now if THIS position was parroted for 7 years nonstop by all the media outlets, you too would be saying it. But Israelis are too nice and not fanatical enough so nobody hears this position. Anyway, what you say doesn't matter, and I think despite being pussies in world diplomacy the Israeli leaders know they are accountable to Jewry and Israelis. If clueless foreigners don't know it, Israelis and Jews certainly do.

    So you can take your misguided opinions and shove them you know where.
     
  16. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    What right? The right to kill? So Jews anywhere outside Israel are fair game? Genetic studies by Jews have shown that the Palestinian are genetic kin. And they are already living where foreign Jews of non-Palestinian origin since 2000 years are building their homes.
     
  17. otheadp Banned Banned

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    Look how you're foaming at the mouth when truth is exposed to you SAM

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    Hitler this, Hitler that...

    Quite pathetic to watch.

    Godwin's law > SAM.
     
  18. Cazzo Registered Senior Member

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    I'd say some people have done much of their violence in the name of religion, not necessarily because of religion.
     
  19. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Its not Godwin's law when applied to Israel, they are taking compensation for the very things they are now doing to others.
     
  20. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    typical person blinded by hate. The only reason israel is in the predicament its in is cause it given to them with out them doing shit to deserve it. If they actually fought with the expressed intent of gain the country most of the shit they is thrown at them wouldn't be. The simple truth is The jews got Israel off of other people's sacrifices. People already living in an area can never occupy in the sense your using the word. The only fanatic out of me and you is you. Yeah sure shooting babies in the hands of 14 years old girls is being to nice.
     
  21. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Religion will cause violence in the same way just having views can.


    However, regardless, it would be foolish to say society would be the same without ever having had religion or even foolish to say it'd be better. Regardles, yes there have been bad times. But religion has also lead to civil inspiration, the growth and expansion of civilization, it's brought some people together, and yes it's torn others apart. But it's been a guiding force in getting us where we are. It's helped civilizations of the past grow and given them purpose. Religion has both pros and cons.
     
  22. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Turkey and Iran aren't Semites. They can be good neighbors but nonetheless Syria shares more with Israel than it does with Iran or Turkey in terms of identity.

    Turkey's soccer team don't make me laugh. Even the Saudis can beat you, and everyone knows they pay the other team to lose.

    And an alliance would be in everyone's best interest, especially the interest of Semitic expansion and power.

    To have Israel on our side.........imagine the power of a united Semitic military. We'd be unstoppable.
     
  23. Balerion Banned Banned

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    No, that's not true. Once you bring divine instruction into the equation, you're in a realm you just can't get to without religion.

    You can't have it both ways, though. You can't dismiss the negatives of religion as being "par for the course" in regards to human condition, and then turn around and claim that its positive aspects can be attributed only to religion.
     

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