Is Ignorance bliss

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by yumyum, Nov 8, 2002.

  1. yumyum The All Knowing.. I think Registered Senior Member

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    Ive been thinking about this for along time is ignorance bliss if your ignorant than you dont know going on its like your a little child not a care in the world. but then bliss is when you are content with whats going on meaning your not ignorant. (a lest my take on the word) it seems contradicting. I wanted to say more but I cant think on how to put it. thoughts on this?
     
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  3. grazzhoppa yawwn Valued Senior Member

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    I think....

    if you don't know anything outside of your little "bubble" then you can only base your emotions off what you know. Ignorance would be bliss for me because I would live in a wonderful house, wonderful neighborhood, eat well, have fun.

    What about a child that knows nothing but suffering? A child might live in an area where the government prevents food from entering the country...so the child is always hungry. They are weak all the time. The have sores and blisters. The only thing that brings happiness to them is being with a loved one (that's my speculation). If they didn't know anything of a better world, they would not be in bliss because although they don't know of much happiness, pain never feels good. Their "bubble" is of being hungry, hurting. Pain is universal...you don't have to know the definition of the word because you can feel it firsthand. Happiness or bliss for them might not be how we define it....I think it would when they don't feel as much pain.

    Ignorance is bliss in the middle/upper class people of the world.

    For some people in third world countries, ignorance is nothing but what they know.
     
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  5. shinobi Junior Member Registered Senior Member

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    I think that in certain cases ignorance can be bliss. I've just been reading the Ouija board thread and one of the reasons I would never use one is that at the moment I do not believe in spirits and ghosts, discovering they were real would scare me to death.

    Of course to be able to choose which things I would like to be ignorant of requires some awareness of the subject.

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  7. CounslerCoffee Registered Senior Member

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    Yes. Ignorance is bliss. My last girlfriend was a moron, and she was always happy.
     
  8. SoLiDUS OMGWTFBBQ Registered Senior Member

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    Ignorance: The condition of being uneducated, unaware, or uninformed.

    Bliss: Extreme happiness; ecstasy.

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    "Ignorance is bliss."

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    Well, to be honest, I think it's true...

    Smarter people usually have more issues (self-imposed) to deal
    with so they don't appear as happy as people who see less of
    the "big picture". My sister is a perfect example...

    I sometimes wonder how it would be like to be retarded and
    always be happy, no matter how much saliva keeps soaking my
    shirt...

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  9. grazzhoppa yawwn Valued Senior Member

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    That's very true but......

    You are living with a roof over you head, you are using the internet and using a computer!!!

    If you felt pain and knew nothing but that (there's the ignorance part) would you still think it was bliss?
     
  10. SoLiDUS OMGWTFBBQ Registered Senior Member

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    That isn't exactly what they mean, but I see your point.
     
  11. p_ete2001 Registered Senior Member

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    I think on the whole ignorance is bliss. But it depends on the context. Ignorance of what!? If someone is ignorant of happiness then is that bliss? Plus the word ignorance implies choice (i think) Someone chooses to ignore something. A child in a 3rd world may not be ignoring anything.A person who lives a life of luxury may not be ignoring anything. Because it is a choice then i think ignorance is bliss because someone would only choose to ignore something that they dont want to think/know about. this means that it is blissful for them.Someone would only choose to ignore something (i think) that is going to hurt/disturb them.Otherwise why would they ignore it? Ignorance is bliss but that fact that we have a choice to ignore things is good. A child in a 3rd world country, like u said grasshoppa, cannot ignore much. It cant ignore being hungry or thirsty can it (i dont think). it may try but would it work.

    p.s i think i may have been wrong b4 about someone only ignoring something that will hurt/disturb them. The child that u describes grasshoppa may choose to ignore what is going on in international politics even though this wont hurt them. Or maybe it would. Maybe it would hurt them that people can bicker over some things when they are sat there starving to death. i dont know. Im all confused now

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  12. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    Ignorence is intellectual suicide.

    If you want that sort of bliss - nothingness - just shoot yourself and be done with it.
     
  13. Hoth Registered Senior Member

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    Detachment always works better than ignorance. If you don't depend on the knowledge for your happiness, or allow yourself to be driven to unhappiness by other knowledge, then you're free to pursue knowledge casually and without fear. If you're not attached to the result of your investigation you needn't fear the investigation. This works much better than trying to remain ignorant, as an attempt at ignorance is usually just an attempt to escape the inevitable or hide from yourself (or the world)... such attempts are treating the symptoms but not the cause. (Of course the appeal is that it seems easier.)
     
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  14. p_ete2001 Registered Senior Member

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    I agree hoth. Good point
     
  15. goofy headed punk Registered Senior Member

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    Ignorance is bliss until you come to the realization that you are ignorant. Then, though knowledgable of you own ignorance, ignorance is hell.
     
  16. p_ete2001 Registered Senior Member

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    I think ignorance is a choice goofy headed punk.
     
  17. goofy headed punk Registered Senior Member

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    I disagree. A person can be completely ignorant of something, say science, and still want to learn about it.
     
  18. Clockwood You Forgot Poland Registered Senior Member

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    Ignorance can be bliss, but only CAN. An animal, though innocent, is miserable when caught in a trap.

    Innocence also means impotence. An animal can not meaningfully shape the universe to any serious degree.

    There is that old proverb, better to rule in hell than serve in heaven.
     
  19. goofy headed punk Registered Senior Member

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    This may sound a little silly but would you please clarify that clockwood?
     
  20. Rowen Registered Senior Member

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    The Candyman

    -You want to know the truth...-

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  21. Clockwood You Forgot Poland Registered Senior Member

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    Is an animal, ignorant though he may be, allways happy? No. Only in times of pleanty.
    He knows nothing and thus cand find his way out of a good trap.

    A wise person can take lemons and make lemonade. They can take most situations and make them better. You have a handfull of seeds. An animal would eat them. A wise man would plant them.
     
  22. Delvinity Registered Member

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    I think in some ways ignorance can be bliss. It depends. Suffice to say, it can work to a disadvantage.
     
  23. Bebelina kospla.com Valued Senior Member

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    Since everything is possible then ignorance can of course be bliss. But this does also mean that ignorance doesn't have to be accompanied by bliss, nor does bliss need to be accompanied by ignorance. Sometimes they just collide.
     

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