US Army Officer caught red handed spreading lies about Obama!

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  1. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, Ganymede:

    McCain Surge in Polls

    Gallup: McCain 49% - Obama 45%! The latest Gallup / USA Today poll shows John McCain with a statistically insignificant 4% lead over Barack Obama among likely voters, a +10 McCain surge since June. Among all registered voters, people who will vote and people who won’t vote, there is still a slight preference for Obama. McCain Surges Ahead of Obama John McCain’s surge has analysts puzzled. While Obama got most of the media attention on a mad dashing tour in Europe, McCain worked quietly on the home front addressing economic problems to a domestic audience.
     
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  3. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    Buffalo did bother to read the fine print?

    The Friday-Sunday poll, mostly conducted as Obama was returning from his much-publicized overseas trip and released just this hour, shows McCain now ahead 49%-45% among voters that Gallup believes are most likely to go to the polls in November.
     
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  5. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    Buffalo, you're a liar, stop misrepresenting the facts, but you're a Republican so lies and distortion is what you practice.

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    http://www.gallup.com/poll/109138/Gallup-Daily-Obama-47-McCain-41.aspx

    NOW STFU
     
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  7. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, Ganymede:

    McCain Surge in Polls

    Gallup: McCain 49% - Obama 45%! The latest Gallup / USA Today poll shows John McCain with a statistically insignificant 4% lead over Barack Obama among likely voters, a +10 McCain surge since June. Among all registered voters, people who will vote and people who won’t vote, there is still a slight preference for Obama. McCain Surges Ahead of Obama John McCain’s surge has analysts puzzled. While Obama got most of the media attention on a mad dashing tour in Europe, McCain worked quietly on the home front addressing economic problems to a domestic audience.
     
  8. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, Ganymede, read the fine print, the Obama polls released today were taken over the week end, as he came back from Europe.

    John McCain’s surge has analysts puzzled. While Obama got most of the media attention on a mad dashing tour in Europe, McCain worked quietly on the home front addressing economic problems to a domestic audience.

    Earlier there appeared to be a two day upswing for Obama building, but that was erased after the weekend. Rasmussen Reports polls Obama only 3% ahead, which includes the weekend sample which generally skews Democratic. Veteran political pundits are giving John McCain excellent chances.

    Obama’s collapse in the Gallup / USA Today poll may be an aberration or it may be the beginning of the end for the Democrat hopeful. The poll was conducted July 25-27, 2008, using 791 likely voters.
     
  9. CharonZ Registered Senior Member

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    Well I have really followed the polls (I erroneously assumed that McCain was leading most of the time) but according to the LA times

    Apparently there was just a statistical dip in there. But then the overall values are so close together, I wonder if there actually is a statistical significance in there.
     
  10. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    there isn't
     
  11. MSSG Registered Member

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    Rank vs. Position

    Not that I support the letter that was written but I do need to defend the writer on one thing. The term "Battle Captain" is in reference to a position held within an operations center and not a rank. Just wanted to give you all the facts for clarity. Apparently the writer did not do so.
     
  12. TheSeer Registered Member

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    Battle Captain is a position, not a Rank!

    I am glad MSSG corrected the idiot who proclaimed that "Battle Captain" was a non-existent position.
     
  13. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Spent 20 years in the military and never heard of such a position, the only time I ever heard such a title was in the movies.

    20 years in the military and I never saw a Officer, NCO, or Enlisted Man sign his name except with his Rank and Name.

    General..........Lieutenant General...........Major General.............Captain.......1st Lieutenant.....2nd Lieutenant.......Master Warent Officer..........Command Sergeant Major........First Sergeant.....Staff Sergeant........etal.

    WHAT NOW, BATTLE CAPTAIN? The Who, What and How of the Job on Nobody's Books, but Found in Every Unit's TOC.

    It is a job discription not a rank, and as such wouldn't be used as a signature title.
     
  14. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    I think you are confusing the issue Buffalo. Each ship has a captain and is addressed as captian regardless of his rank. For example, submarines, are typically commaned by Lt. Commanders and Commanders but are always addressed as captain when on board and my members of their crew. And that is just on of many examples; officer of the deck, officer of the day, executive officer, commanding officer, etc. And these positions are used in official correspondence.

    Naval Ranks
    Admiral, Vice Admiral, Rear Admiral Upper Half, Rear Admiral Lower Half, Captain, Commander, Lt. Commander, Lt., Lt JR, Ensign

    Not to nit pick, but it looks like you forgot Brigadier General, colonel, Lt. Colonel, and Major in your chain of command.
     
  15. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Ah yes, nit pick, but not as battle captian, and what do you think the:

    (.......................) signify?
     
  16. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    Well it was not obvious to me Buffalo because sometimes you did not skip ranks with ".........." and sometimes you did.
     
  17. MSSG Registered Member

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    First, thanks for your 20 years of service. Second, "Battle Captain" is being used in the same manner as "Commanding" would be used in a Company, Battalion or Brigade Commander's signature block for correspondence. Not sure how long ago it was that you served but the way the writer signed his letter is common practice. By adding "Battle Captain" to the block he is portraying that he is the senior person in charge of day to day operations for whatever shift he is working. Now, since he is presumed to be a Battle Captain that tells me there is an S-3 (most likely in the rank of Major) that he answers to. This S-3 would more than likely be responsible for all the Battle Captains that work in the TOC, whether that is 2 or 3 is the call of the commander or availability of personnel. All in all I wasn't sure what you were asking for in your post. Hope I answered the mail.
     
  18. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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  19. mgd Registered Member

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    do your research

    It seems in the hopes that Obama is honest people have done some research to disprove the email from a battle captain in Bagram in Task Force Wasatch. As a result they are saying that my wife is not a member of task force wasatch as it only existed during wwii and that battle captain does not exist as a rank and that Bagram is an airforce base and therefore does not have soldiers other then Air Force present. All this is ridiculous. My wife who is a member of TF Wasatch based at Bagram Airforce base does in fact exist! If she does not exist then I must be insane as I miss her while she is there on behalf of your country! Google is not an end all in fact. Tackforce Wasatch does exist. Battle Captain does exist. Obama did go there for a photo op. He has lost my wife's vote as well as mine. At least the other presidential candidate is honest about war mongering intentions and does not ignore the troops. If anyone wants to dispute this then they can come and tell me face to face that i am missing my wife who does not exist and is not involed in a war because they could not find her on google. Grow up and get real. Obama lost my vote!
     
  20. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    So it's a U.S Airforce term? No wonder 'mericans who've served, that I have talked to, think Airforce is for Dorks. (Including a Viper Pilot I knew)
     
  21. superstring01 Moderator

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    Agreed, mostly.

    I was in the Navy. As a rule not all ships have "captains", but all have CO's. The usage of "captain" to refer to the CO is a born out of naval tradition before the term "captain" actually was used to signify rank. In other words, (like you said) there were commanders of ships, but they were called "captain" or "skipper" out of respect. The title came first. It became a rank about two hundred years ago. But one doesn't say "the captain of an attack sub is so and so" (ballistic subs get real captains: nukes require a flag officer), you'd say, "the CO is..." but when addressing that CO (no matter the rank) you use the word "captain" out of respect.

    Interesting side not: any CO on active sea duty gets the same treatment and quarters (if visiting land on official business) as rear admiral lower half (one star) who's on shore duty. Weird maritime tradition.

    ~String
     
  22. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Now my question.

    How many military people sign letters home with their rank?

    And why would you use a Duty Status, such as Command Pilot or even in this example Battle Captian, in your Communications with your family.

    I don't know of any military man who signs a letter home with his rank, except Frank Burns, and any caught doing so by there fellow soldiers would accord that soldier the same respect given to Frank Burns.
     
  23. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    More evidence that the letter was intended as propaganda from the beginning, not as a private communication.
     

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