Split decision in Guantanamo trial

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Do you really think that Osama bin Ladin was being driven around by some regular guy who had no idea he was a terrorist?

 

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So? Should we arrest the baker who delivers Bin Laden's bread every morning?

 

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yea i was lissoning to a thing on ABC radio this morning about this. the guy (and i cant rember his job or name) congratulated the president on spending millions of dollors to establish that a truck driver "drove a truck". well done

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Heh well said. By this definition, the US is guilty of providing material support and ferrying weapons in every conflict where they have supplied arms. Hilarious.

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Does this mean that a corporation that gives money (or resources) - bribes, fees, gifts - to a regime that is likely to use this money to repress or kill people can be tried somewhere?

When US agents taught South American regimes how to torture, are they resposible to find out who will be tortured and decide if it is justified?

Are the makers of landmines now liable for civilian deaths?

 

You mean driving the car with a surface-to-air missile in it when he was captured?

Some cherry-picked facts is all you have to offer?

 

wonder if they will charge US solders for shooting iraqie solders. After all if you can charge someone with murdering the people who invade your country to try to kill you you can surly charge the invaders as well

 

Maybe you are up to performing a citizen's arrest of all the US soldiers, or even just one?

That would be fun to watch.

 

Asguard,

You have no idea what you are talking about on this one. Try to refrain from regurgitating things you have heard from biased sources. I have lived this nightmare and can tell you the US Soldiers are busting their tails to help this country (both countries). I would agree that we have some Soldiers that have done the wrong thing but any person in society can do wrong. Note: Our Soldiers come straight from society. Wish you could be exposed to the good things that are happening there everyday.

MSSG

 

So I read today that he will have to serve maybe 5 more months?

 

Yeah. 5.5 years, of which he has already been held 5 years.

Boy, are we evil people!

.5 years is just to process him out of the system and to find someone willing to take him off our hands.

Hell, we'd let him go today, but he can't swim very far.

 

So he was a paid employee of Al Quida and was driving the head of that organization around and he isn't guilty of collaborating with the enemy, give me a break. He most certainly knew what and who he was dealing with. He's a lucky man I'd say.

 

so what?
he drove for an organisation which under the countries laws was a legal organisation. I love lissioning to you all claim that the ICC haveing universal powers is wrong while at the same time your country is aresting people for legal activities in another country which was legal at the time they were "commited". The hypocrasy of the US and americans just astounds me.

 

I really don't understand. He was given a trial and found guilty. He even admitted he was the driver, so where's the problem here?

 

only 2 things
1) that it wasnt a crime at the time he commited the alleged offence
2) that the US doesnt have juristiction over crimes commited in other countries

Retrospective laws are never alowed in our justice system and i doubt they are in yours either. How would you like it if you sleep with an 18 year old and 10 years latter they change the age of concent to 19 and arest you for rape? thats basically what your doing.

As for extrajudical powers and universal juristiction, i was having a lovly debate with a few of you on wether canda and\or the ICC should and could procute george bush for war crimes and i was told that universal juristiction is wrong (in there opinion) and yet i havent seen any of them protesting about charging people in gitmo for crimes which didnt happen in the US

 

So does this mean that Lebanon can try American pilots for flying cluster bombs to Israel?

 

I believe that all Guantanamo Bay prisoners should be tried by a judge and jury on the soil of the USA with full juridical aspects of their cases . I do not trust the Administration to have a farce trial in Guantanamo bay far from everyone else . The case of Oklohoma bombing went to a jury who gave its verdict .