Homosexuality is a mental disorder

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by MBello, Sep 4, 2008.

  1. Simon Anders Valued Senior Member

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    It has to be flexible, period. It can be pretty rigid or pretty loose. But you cannot have a government that legislates all morals. Even the fascists never tried that.

    I mean do you really want a government agency that tries to make sure no one is spanking their spouses for sexual pleasure?

    For example.
     
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  3. Simon Anders Valued Senior Member

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    So you say. Others say different. Right now in some societies you are losing. In others you are winning. You could move to those. You can, of course, express your opinions, but posts like the one I am quoting here make it sound like you know what society's morals are

    despite the evidence to the contrary.
     
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  5. Gustav Banned Banned

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    as per tt

    indeedly doodly
     
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  7. Simon Anders Valued Senior Member

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    If you started talking about a society where OTHER PEOPLE didn't get to eat tamales, where restaurants should never FLAUNT such a food, and certainly no one should have a picnic
    and eat
    a tamale
    in public.

    Then yes, you would be a tamalephobe.

    In fact, thank you for the example.

    People who don't like tamales, don't eat them. Generally speaking they let other people eat them if they want to.

    (I suddenly felt like I was talking about something else)
     
  8. Gustav Banned Banned

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    damn tamalenistas

    /aghast
     
  9. Simon Anders Valued Senior Member

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    sometimes I dream of their lips slowly approaching an especially spicy - I don't know how I know this - tamale. I wake up before the bite screaming.
     
  10. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    It should legislate the morals based on social consensus.

    Move to those? I'm in one!

    Grand ol' Texas. Marriage has been constitutionally defined as between man and woman only.

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    With people, however, you can't avoid them, but for not liking them, I'm not a "homophobe"

    I don't like murderers. Am I a murdererphobe?
     
  11. Vkothii Banned Banned

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    Wait 'til you see the murderer's pride parade, it's a real killer.
     
  12. Simon Anders Valued Senior Member

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    And this is happening. It is legal to have a gay pride parade. It is legal for gay men to kiss in public. A majority could try to legislate against this.

    If the laws of your state make you happy, I really cannot see what you are complaining about.

    I can't avoid all sorts of things that bug me. I can't even legally protect myself from seeing people eat tamales. I cannot protect myself from hearing you telling a friend on a street corner how much you dislike gays. I can't prevent you from telling your wife to act like a 50's wife.

    I hate those texas hats.

    That's life. Get used to it. You have the problem.

    So you admit that your tamale example didn't work and you want to try another.

    If someone murders me, they force me to participate completely in their 'lifestyle'. If someone is gay, I do not have to be gay.

    The horrifying thing is that this has been pointed out to you many, many times.

    One gay guy asks me out. I say no.
    One murderer kills me. I can't say no. I have become a part of a murder victim relationship. Get it?
    Sigh. I know you don't.

    I am sure you will start talking again about tradition, as if tradition was good in itself, just like slavery was or when men had to wear hats all the time.
     
  13. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Laws aren't based on social consensus in the US

    That's not how it should be

    That wasn't the point. The point was, are you a "phobe" for not agreeing with something?
     
  14. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    If you're so keen on unity, go live in a cave somewhere. Then, you can have a unity of one.

    Or, start your own private commune somewhere, and only let people join who think just like you.
     
  15. lepustimidus Banned Banned

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    Hahah, the 'unity of one'. That's a pretty nonsencial phrase, even for you Jamesy.
     
  16. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    I'm glad you enjoyed it, lepustimidus. I always try to make my posts interesting and fun to read.
     
  17. Pandaemoni Valued Senior Member

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    Discrimination in this context means the unfair treatment of a person or group of persons. Banishing people who have done nothing wrong to you other than be a certain way (and in a manner that has no real impact on your life) fits that. Your merely not eating tamales does not.

    You can't behave unfairly to an inanimate object.

    On the other hand, if you rid the world of tamales thus depriving those of us who do like them of the opportunity to have them, then you are just a prick.
     
  18. visceral_instinct Monkey see, monkey denigrate Valued Senior Member

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    Don't tell me whether I relate to people in my own life. You don't live in my area. I hope, anyway. Ugh.

    Ok, I will when I can be assed.
     
  19. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    VI, you relate to people in your life but not the rest of your fellow countrymen or people in your society.


    James, that's the idea, structure. Not a cave, lol, but structure society so that people can be satisfied and comfortable with the others in their society.
     
  20. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    does anyone else feel the urge to jump through the computer and strangle some certain people here at the moment?
     
  21. visceral_instinct Monkey see, monkey denigrate Valued Senior Member

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    Yup, Asguard, I do. He's extremely annoying.
     
  22. Simon Anders Valued Senior Member

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    I never said it did.





    No. But you go beyond not agreeing. You want gays out of sight, perhaps out of existence. It is not simply that you dislike, you want to go back to the 50s when there were gays, but they had to pretend, for the most part that they were not gay. A gay person for example might find the idea of having sex with a woman disagreeable. I assume most gay men would. However most of them do not think heterosexuals should refrain from kissing each other.

    And an observation: you seem very sensitive and vulnerable.
     
  23. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Is homophobia a mental disorder?
     

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