Pakistan Reserves the Right to Appropriately Retaliate

Hmm yeah, we got bigger problems than fat people who want gas.

 

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Actually Pakistan should all blow themselves up; all we have to do is convince them trees are infidels.

 

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You're confusing Pakistan with Palestine. Pakistanis will blow everyone else up first.

 

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Bush 'approved' Pakistan attacks

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7611287.stm

It seems the despot has moved his attention from Iran to Pakistan.

 

Now that will be the Mother of All Suicide Bombing, typically Muslim.

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Bufallo, I wonder why you keep turning every thread to an anti-islamic propaganda stage. Where is the source of this blind hatred? Did a muslim rape your mum while you were sleep in her arms??

 

What hate? Sheesh, you ascribe things to me that are not fact.

I have been called every name in the book from you side, every way from direct insult, to innuendo, to questioning my mental stability.

If there is any hate it comes from the You, Muslims and Liberal, on this site, and My apologies to Zackaryia, the only Muslim with the Balls to condemn the daily atrocities of Muslims done in the name of Islam, done daily across the world daily.

You as a Muslim, fail to recognize the hate in your own mind, because as a Muslim you are indoctrinated in the Belief that you are never at Fault, Your are the Chosen of God, and that it is always the other Guys fault.

There are a lot of thing I condemn, done in the name of Christianity, especially the excess of the Catholic Religion, and my fore fathers suffered as Protestant, because of the Catholic Inquisition, and Auto da Fe', but in the end we changed things, at the cost of our blood, against our own religion.

Were are the Protestants of Islam?

Every thing that I have posted, is fact, from the Quran, Hadith, News, History, I question the acts of Islam, and Moslems around the world, who are on Jihad, a murderous Jihad, full of rape, torture, murder, kidnappings, suicide bombings, and most of those actions are Muslim on Muslim, in the market square, the Mosque, on Pilgrimage.

But then lets not forget the attacks on Hindu Shrines, even the suggestion, of returning a Hindu Holy Site to Hindu control.

Daily these stories are in the News around the world, and few, very few Muslims condemn these actions.

Hate? I don't hate Muslim, I friends who are Muslim, I have friends across the religious spectrum, and the color spectrum, what I hate is the stiff necked attitude of people like you who cannot see or condemn the daily acts of rape, murder, torture, suicide bombing, People like you who claim to know my Heart.

I question, and I point out, and the actions of Muslim in the name of Islam.

From my side, I see that when some one is accused of breaching the Laws of War, they re investigated, and if enough evidence, are charged, and if that evidence stand up in Court Trial, and the Individual is convicted, I have no problem with their sentence.

We do this as a matter of course.

Does Islam? NO, there isn't a command structure, to do so, and according to the Quran, there is no censure to their actions, in fact they are considered Shaheed, and praised as the Faithful of Islam.

 

Since you profess such a deep knowledge of the inner nature of Islam Buffalo Roam- would you please list for us here your most influential teachers?

In other words, where the hell did you learn all this shit?

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3 years in a Bahai Mosque, Honolulu Hawaii, a very pleasant experience, and some very good friend.

And watching Islam for 33 years, watching the acts of Terrorism, Suicide Bombings, Murder Rape and Suicide, by Muslims in the of Allah, and Islam.

33 years of reading and research about Islam and the Quran.

Are you telling me that what I see and read, reported in the news, is not done by Muslims, in the name of Jihad, in the name of Allah, and justified by Mohammad and the Hadiths? That all the suicide bombings, and the dead innocent Muslims, are just propaganda, and didn't happen?

Are you telling me that the Quran isn't written in a way that the Sura's can't be changed by just moving the vowels marks and pronunciation marks?

Are you trying to tell me that Islam doesn't use force to convert to Islam?

Are you telling me that Islam doesn't believe that it is always the fault of the Infidel?

You keep telling me of the Peace of Islam, and yet I see the daily toll of dead from the actions of Muslims, in attacks on Muslims, Those in Islam are killing more of their own than all other causes combined.

Yes Tell me of the Peace of Islam, your such a expert.

ps: The Bahai' are, what you claim, the rest of Islam is.

The Bahai' are a People of Peace and Kindness, and they are under attack by Sunni, and Shia' across the Middle East.

 

As such an accomplished Islamologist, what is your take on this?

Do you think they're just kidding?

 

Originally posted by Hypewaders:

Pakistani leaders say one thing to their countrymen, and another completely different version to American officials. The majority do not have problem with the border crossings; rather they have a problem when the Americans are caught making border crossings.

When that happens, they have to talk big to calm down their countrymen. Are they just kidding? Yes, they have no intention of attacking U.S. forces.

 

So then towards you don't expect that Pakistani figures need live up to their pronouncements on the world stage? I expect that more than talk will become vital for the survival of Pakistani figures, and I expect that a test of this premise may be forthcoming. US intervention in Pakistan is becoming extremely provocative, and the sum of US provocation has most of the region approaching the boiling-point.

"When [US intervention] happens, [Paki leaders] have to talk big to calm down their countrymen."

Not only is that not working, it's salt in the wound. On every front, arrogant policy is consistently destroying US leverage, and tilting opinion into intense and widespread antipathy for the US and local partners.

 

And Islam is doing better? hell they can't keep peace between themselves.

 

We are not witnessing, and the region is not perceiving this as a contest between the "Coalition" and Islam. Your suggestion of moral inferiority in Islam is a tiresome brick thrown through a long-shattered window. I'll acknowledge it only briefly.

The totality of killings between nominal Muslims has never approached the carnage of "Christendom". Even over the most recent centuries, Europeans with Christian identity have gone berserk on each other with much greater frequency and ferocity. If you are familiar enough with history to know this, it would be odd for you to offer so baseless and superficial a diversion here. Often I wonder if you're stuggling to play here with an incomplete historical deck.

It won't be feasible to identify and provide all the basic cards you may be missing within the context of this thread. But please consider with some sincerity whether it is rational to justify manifestly reckless US intervention on the basis of the very schisms in Islam that our recent expeditions and raids have been greatly inflaming. We have been adding insult to injury upon alternating sides of the Shi'a-Sunni divide. Islamophobes are quick to tisk-tisk about the blowback, but carefully avoid any sincere evaluation of long-disruptive, long-divisive imperialist and interventionist legacy. You have disrupted enough discussions with childish finger-pointing at who's the bigger meanies. Let's move on.

I challenge you to confront the clearly-manifest reality that US interventionist meddling isn't making anything significantly better. It's making ethnic tensions and the dangers of wider conflict precipitously worse. We won't escape the verdict of history by repeating the ignorant and bigoted canard that Muslims are our distinct moral inferiors, while our ambitious military exertions and sacrifices continue to result in the unraveling of order, the incremental opening of the gates of hell, and erosion of global US influence and relevance.

 

blah blah blah... I'm a simple muslim who studies his holy book, prays and ponders on the meanings, respects his parents and kids, tries to assist the others and make people happy (though sometimes lazy), gives away a portion of his monthly income to the needy and gets angry wherever he sees injustice.. and I compare it with Quranic verses and they all match. WTF are you talking about man? I hate your pointless sophistry...

 

Nau sau choohe khake billi Haj ko chali. [After eating 900 rats, the cat goes for Haj.]

Buffalo is a career soldier who found Christ.

 

...so he took the little bugger hostage.

 

As usual you have it bass akwards.