really stupid plan

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Asguard, Nov 16, 2008.

  1. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    i was watching something (dont rember what) on this isralie movement who want to rebuild the temple and even have plans drawn up and skale models ready to go and i was left thinking who ever predicted that a sign for the end of the world will be when the temple in jerusalim is rebuilt was quite intelligent. I cant think of a single act more likly to start a full skale war in the middle east than knocking down the mosque there to rebuild a jewish temple.

    Of course its slightly different than predicted, it wont be a SIGN that the war is comming but rather the CAUSE of the war. Even being stupid enough to draw up and publish plans like these is enough to cause racial tentions to flare into violence.
     
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  3. Harro Registered Senior Member

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    I dont think it will bring about the end times as Biblical propheses predict and some might wish to happen. But I agree it will casue major tensions that could esculate into full blown war in the region.
     
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  5. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    and if that war was to drag the US, russa and china into it?

    Not to mention if a war like this was to spread to pakistan and india?

    what if israil was almost destroyed? would they use nukes?

    No i dont think it will lead to "the second comming of christ" but it does have the potentual to destroy a fair portion of the world if it dominoed
     
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  7. desi Valued Senior Member

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    If the plan is accurate about Armageddon then everything else becomes academic.
     
  8. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    desi, im not interested in "the second comming of christ" or any other religious garbage. Im worried about the potentual for a war which could cause a nuke holocost. Not to mention could lead to the most populast muslim nation (and china) sitting on the other side of a war from australia
     
  9. firdroirich A friend of The Friends Registered Senior Member

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    They can plan to their heart's content, but they have to wait for a 'sign from God' - a particular red heifer, before they can lay the first stone. Over the years many heifers have been brought forward, as you can imagine. Fortunately, none fitted the prophecy.

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  10. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Well, that still wouldn't mean a seven-headed beast will rise from the sea.. etc..

    Unless you are into making up arbitrary symbolism

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  11. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    enmos once again i repeat. I dont belive this would lead to the biblical end of the world but it could well lead to the distruction of OUR world

    Just because some bible nut predicted stuid crap about it doesnt meant that someone looking at the POLITICS of the situation couldnt predict a worst case senario.

    If someone had said "look at hitler, hes got to be the antichrist" would that have ment someone predicting he would cause WW2 would have been wrong?
     
  12. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Well, you are taking some things from the 'good book' but ignoring other things. It seems your criteria need some clarification

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    So what I gather from this post is that you are saying that it would "lead to the distruction of OUR world humanity". Correct ?
     
  13. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    no. Im saying that IF they did it, it COULD lead to an atack against israil by all the muslim nations. This COULD lead to a) the US's involvment b) israil using its nukes if it looked like being destroyed

    If the US got invovled that COULD drag Russia and China into the conflict with THERE nukes.

    Further more destabilisation of the arab world could well bring india in opitunisticly which COULD strike off another nuke war between them and pakistan.

    This is worst case oviously but it would mean that almost all (if not all) nuke countries were involved in the conflict and one at least would have a dam good reason to fire.

    As i said the similarities are either coincidence OR whoever wrote it was dam smart and managed to asses global tenions 1000's of years before the global world actually existed
     
  14. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Would people really be THAT stupid ? I have a hard time believing that.. I hope not.
     
  15. Balerion Banned Banned

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    If it were to happen (not likely, by the way) it wouldn't cause WWIII.

    And even if it did, let's take a breath and remember that we've already had two huge wars and survived. I doubt there's any scenario that would bring China, the US, and Russia to a hot war. There would be too much to lose, and not enough to gain.

    And no, you will not see a global nuclear war. The nuke is an excellent deterrent against itself.
     
  16. Texas Bob Registered Senior Member

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    Asguard...ever heard of spell check?
     
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  18. Texas Bob Registered Senior Member

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    Personally, I disagree but then again I believe Bible prophecy myself. It mentions the Anti-Christ entering the Holy of Hollies half way through the seven year tribulation period.

    Interesting that some said Israel would never come back as a literal nation and it did.

    I don't know how or when but my guess is you will see a Temple built. My hunch / speculation has always been that the Bible says the Anti-Christ will confirm a peace treaty between Israel and her neighbors for 7 years and it is possible that the Temple will be part of the bargain, by the way....all hell brakes loose for real in the middle fo the 7 years so if you are still here I wish you the best of luck, you'll need it. Or of course the Radical Muslims could attack Israel and get their asses kicked so bad they agree to anything at that point which Isaiah 17 and Ez 38 & 39 would seem to indicate and you could see a Temple built at that point.

    I read something by Grant Jeffery some time back (sorry can't recall the name of the book) but he was arguing that it is possible the historical Temple site was actually over just far enough that you could have the Temple on one end of the mount and the Mosque on the other.

    Bottom line is, no one knows the specifics but based on what prophecy tells me I am certain the Temple will be built at some point.
     
  19. desi Valued Senior Member

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    The people who financed the circumstances behind Israel becoming a country are the ones behind wanting this temple rebuilt. They are rich and they seem to have a thing for Jew related prophesy. That temple is going to be expensive, yet I know of nothing in they way of it being built.

    Is there a potential for war if it is built? Yes, I would argue that is the intent of it being rebuilt per the prophesy of it being rebuilt in end times.

    I don't see how Australia would get involved if they decided to sit it out. Its up to how your elected leaders act...
     
  20. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    you dont honestly think australia would abandon canda and the UK even if we decided to abandon the US do you?

    Thats despite the fact that its possable we simply wouldnt have a choice in the matter, indonesia is the most populas muslim nation, besides which they have WAY more solders than we do. If they wanted to take australia by force the ONLY defence we would have is that our navy is better equipt than theres but there is still only so much the navy and the airforce can do to stop an invasion. They simply cant be everywhere and our coast land is VAST. Once they were on australian soil with enough numbers we are screwed simple as that. If they need an excuse to invade apart from the fact that we are westenised we would be handing them one, we WOULDNT abandon east timor a second time and that would be a prime target. It basically wouldnt matter that australia and NZ didnt enter the greater war, we would probably be early casualties as generalised war broke out.

    Rember the reason we didnt lose australia in WW2 was that we were fighting on the islands ABOVE australia, the japanise had little interest in australia anyway and we had help from the US. if the US was streched across the middle east, and the UK and eroup were otherwise engaged, ESPECIALLY if china and russia entered the war on the other side there would be no one and no time to help australia this time
     
  21. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    That's how all the other world wars started. Often, even, a seemingly unimportant official from a country we usually don't care about get killed and next thing we know we are in war. :shrug:
     

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