4 arrested in NYC for conspiracy to blow up a synagogue

Discussion in 'World Events' started by otheadp, May 21, 2009.

  1. otheadp Banned Banned

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    You have nothing to fear from what you think of as "my" group - Jews in America (or Canada, or Europe), even the JDL of today, would never resort to bombing a mosque or swarming a Muslim kid with baseball bats, or kidnapping him for ransom. And if some fringe idiot would, he would face an avalanche of condemnations from within his community - yes I said "his" because like it or not, he is.

    Believe it or not, I and "my people" do know what your group is, but we're not the ones you should be concerned about. It's Billy Joe Bobs from Kentucky who don't know the difference between an Arab and a Sikh.

    All you do here is sing to your liberal choir who need no convincing about your point of view, and at the same time aggravate people who need clarifications from Muslims. You won't face violence from me and mine, despite us having the biggest bone to pick. But those who don't know about Islam, or think they know but don't, will eventually be fed up with your fake outrages and indignations. The average person will not become violent towards you, because they're polite and are [for now] bullied by the PC regime, but they'd be more inclined to fear and dislike you in private, and vote someone in that would do something about the perceived (or not so perceived) menace.

    You are linked, whether you like it or not.
     
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  3. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    And theres the irony, the Jews are literally your best friends right now.

    Sure we hate your guts, but unlike the reast of the world we wont massacre every one of you no matter how much you are asking for it.

    The rest of the world ain't so patient. Try firing a rocket into the US, i dar yah
     
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  5. otheadp Banned Banned

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    Muslims took down 2 buildings, the US took down 2 countries.

    And yes, I dare ya, I doubledare ya, motherfucker. (http://www.entertonement.com/clips/42502/Say-what-again)
     
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  7. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Its quite the other way around. Jews lived for 2000 years in Muslim lands and could assimilate because no one cared about their little separate communities. But let Jews get some power and they're counting the birth rates of the people they threw out of their homes.
     
  8. otheadp Banned Banned

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    It's only polite when you're an absolute moron to not contribute your 2 thousand cents where it's not wanted or needed or contributing.
    :spank:

    Moron-be-gone.
     
  9. Arsalan Registered Senior Member

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    And this is where we differ: I never saw you as part of a group. I never ascribed a group like that to you. I deal with your posts as an individual and I hold you accountable if you do anything wrong. I dont hold you accountable for what Herschel Grynszpan did or what the IDF and the settlers do on a regular basis, because even though you seem to support Israeli actions, I know its not you thats going there and doing all those things. And thats the big difference between me and you.

    *cough*Kosher Nostra*cough* Crimes are committed by people from every group in society. But do we expect all of Scotland or Glasgow to apologise to the mosque Neil was trying to blow up? No.

    Just like the Muslim community worldwide has been condemning and denouncing terrorism.

    And if they were to kill a Sikh because he looked like an Arab, which one did, should we hold all of those Billy Joe Bobs responsible? No.

    I used to post denunciations and condemnations from Muslims, but soon found it to be a futile practie as those posts were ignored. No more. Now I will just respond the way I do now: no one will get a condemnation or denunciation from me or an apology unless I am linked to a crime or terrorist act and neither will I expect or hold anyone else here accountable for any act carried out by someone that happens to belong to their race or religion.

    And a minor correction: I'm not a Liberal, my political views are mixed and tend to lean towards Conservative.

    From you and yours? You mean the Jewish community? The Jewish community has no bone to pick with the Muslims. Both groups and or followers have done things to each other and neither is somehow entitled to an apology over the other.

    So you mean my words may lead to violence and oppression? Thanks for that. But back to the point: they can vote for whomever they like. When the BNP actually steps into the public debate arena, it will be choppded down and shown for what it really is. Why do you think they are so afraid of the public arena?

    Nope, I'm not. Just like you arent linked to the people taht bomb and or kill Palestinians or try to blow up a mosque in Glasgow.
     
  10. Arsalan Registered Senior Member

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    Muslims and Jews were friends for a long time, until the betrayal by Lawrence and his ilk.

    *cough*Gaza*cough*

    I think pothead answered this
     
  11. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Ditto.
     
  12. otheadp Banned Banned

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    Arsalan, there's a saying in Hebrew, "don't be right, be smart."

    Objectively and principally you are right. But go tell that to an unreasonable person. People have always thought of others in terms of groups. When I was 18 and in Canada, I heard there was a suicide bombing in my Junior HighSchool in Israel I went berserk and wanted to go on the streets here in Canada, find the first Arab, and beat the living daylights out of him (my friends convinced me that was stupid and I never did). In the few days after 9/11, many Muslims, or people who were thought of as Muslims were beat up in the States in response. When the Danish cartoons were published, Muslims worldwide weren't just angry at the cartooners, but the entire country of Denmark, and pretty much the entire western world. These 4 pig fuckers that were caught were not targeting anyone who actively was committing any "crimes against Muslims", but people who had nothing to do with anything. And then SAM refused to condemn them because of "America" (a group / entity) is "guilty" of some "crimes" -- she is not looking at this event discreetly, but links it to the entire west, even though the potential victims have nothing to do with anything.

    It is inevitable. You are linked to your group whether you like it or not. And these 4 too. Especially since they were explicitly and on record using religious justification to what they were doing.

    And FFS, stop using GAZA in your excuses. If Muslims in the States can use the imaginary "crimes" in Gaza as justifications, you're opening a Pandora's box here to giving Jews in the States license to do the same. Even without going into the debate about who's right or wrong re: Gaza.
     
  13. otheadp Banned Banned

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    Also, by the way, I have seen almost NO links to Muslim denunciations of any terrorism. I did see some qualified ones, or vague condemnations of "all terrorism" as opposed to the specific ones required.
     
  14. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe they have better things to do than take responsibility for other peoples mistakes.

    Thats because you're brainwashed. Even when I read about Jews shooting children in the head in Israel, I don't hold any other Jews anywhere else responsible for it. Not even if they support it or refuse to condemn it. Thats just ridiculous.

    More brainwashing. I spent maybe 5 seconds reading that news then skipped onto something else. If they had bombed the synagogue, there would be something to comment on. Since they were caught, the most one can say is, the cops are doing their jobs. Or think, wow, just in time for Nut and Yahoo. The world has much bigger problems than a bombing that never happened.
     
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  15. otheadp Banned Banned

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    If you're about to post illogical nonsense, feel free to stop yourself and drink some camel milk. Thanks.
     
  16. Arsalan Registered Senior Member

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    I believe in being right more than being smart. Smart people can be conniving backstabbers. people that are right will stand by whats right, regardless of the flak they get.

    Iirc, the justification was that they had family in Afghanistan and the areas that were being bomed and that provked outrage among them and led them to conspire to do something. Fortuantely, they were stopped before they could do anything. Wasnt something to do with religion, rather with their family being displaced and their perceived country being attacked. Much like Neil saw videos from Iraq and saw the Muslims as some kind of force that needed to be attacked because of what was happening in Iraq. Trust me, I understand what youre saying and I know some people might link me to these idiots, but I will gladly be right and debate them and let them see how baseless their arguments are. And I believe in the inherent good in mankind to not come to the conclusion right wing fascists do.

    Im not using excuses, I'm merely drawing the attention to a situation where you and fedr808 have refused to condemn terrorist actions when they come from one side, but want me and SAM to condemn and denounce acts by people we dont even know.

    Its because me and SAM dont post them anymore. When we used to post them, the argument shifted from Muslims not condemning, to all of this being done because of Islam and all Muslims. So why waste time, lets go straight for the underlying issue.
     
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  17. Cowboy My Aim Is True Valued Senior Member

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    How can Jews have spent 2000 years in "Muslim lands" when Islam has only been around for about 13 centuries?
     
  18. Arsalan Registered Senior Member

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    I think its SAMs way of saying theyve been there for a long time

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  19. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Because SAM said so, don't you know a Muslim is never wrong when correcting a Infidel.
     
  20. Cowboy My Aim Is True Valued Senior Member

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    I'm not so sure about the JDL...

    http://pluralism.org/news/article.php?id=2263
     
  21. Arsalan Registered Senior Member

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    Oh boy, BR keeps reminding me of Mel Gibson with his constant need to be seen as some sort of infidel and punished
     
  22. Cowboy My Aim Is True Valued Senior Member

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    But, then, wouldn't it be more accurate to say that Muslims have spent 13 centuries living in Christian, Jewish, Hindu and pagan lands?
     
  23. Arsalan Registered Senior Member

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    Ofcourse Muslims have spent centuries living in those lands. Even Buddhist. The Chinese emperor even had Chinas most famous mosque built, which still stands to this day. But Arabia turned Muslim, so it became Muslim land. Just like the areas and countries around Arabia became Muslim since that religion and its followers, converts and immigrants, replaced whatever old religion, and its followers, were in place in those countries.
     

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