If Blacks in America Couldn't Vote...

Would Obama still have won the Presidency?

 

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Well he wouldn't have been in the running would he?

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Are you asking if Obama won because of racial pressure?

No. He's the poster child for being racially acceptable for any taste. I think it's more arguable he won because he's good-looking and we're an image-conscious society and people are relatively politically unaware.

 

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McCain clearly won one major demographic - middle aged white males.

If those guys couldn't vote, the W Presidency would never have been, and the country would have been spared the current disaster. They appear to have remarkably poor judgment, for some reason.

 

No, I'm asking if you were to take all black votes out of the election, who would have won.

 

Not Obama. Although, a choice between McCain, a hateful old man, and Obama, an anti-individual freedom fake, it really isn't a choice

 

Numbers and statistics please.

 

Blacks only account for 12% of the population. Doubtful. When I voted, it was mostly white people voting.

 

Well, whether the answer is yes or no, I'd still like to see some firm evidence supporting the claim.

 

If you only subtracted the black vote, Obama almost certainly still wins - depending on the electoral college stuff. Most blacks don't vote.

If you take out the Hispanic vote as well, he loses.

If you take out the female vote, Obama loses.

If you take out the white bigot vote, estimated at at least 16% (the percentage of white Hilary voters who voted for McCain), McCain would even lose the white middle aged male vote - but probably not the evangelicals.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/wor...als-black-voters-swept-Obama-White-House.html

It can't be chalked up just to black voters. Why are you interested in this?

 

Just am. I saw that 95% of blacks voted for Obama.

 

Well, yes, but you have to read the stats further down.

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The key was Hispanic and female votes, FTW.

 

Most black voters vote Dem and black voters are a pretty small %.

 

So had the black vote not counted, the final judgment would have been:

52% - Obama
48% - McCain

Instead of 65-35.

 

What I think is hilarious is that most blacks probably voted for him simply because he's black. It's sad, but remarkably likely. If whites were to vote for a president just because he's white, they'd be deemed racist. But back on the beaten path... what is HILARIOUS is this...

Blacks in survey say race relations no better with Obama.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/06/25/obama.poll/index.html#cnnSTCText

 

Probably not, but if whites weren't allowed to vote, McCain definitely would not have won.

 

This makes sense though doesn't it? Voting for a black president and thinking it would lead to better race relations is like wishing someone merry christmas, it's not going to happen unless someone is doing actual work to make it happen, a purely symbolic gesture.

 

you're confusing Obama with Reagan. Obama won by like 52 to 48. Furthermore:

Obama won because of race . . . Obama captured ten million more votes in 2008 than John Kerry did in 2004, resulting in a 4.6 percentage point swing toward the Democrats from 2004 to 2008. This swing did not occur similarly or uniformly among all politically relevant groups, as forecasting models might suggest. Most of the additional Democratic votes were cast by black and Hispanic voters--4.3 million and 2.7 million more, respectively. Democrats also gained among white voters, but the increase was a modest 3 million votes. . . . Obama gained not only by bringing new minority voters into the electorate, but also by converting minority voters who had previously been in the GOP stable.

The percentage of blacks voting for the Democratic presidential candidate rose from 88 percent in 2004 to 95 percent in 2008; the percentage of Hispanics voting for the Democrats rose from 56 percent in 2004 to 67 percent in 2008—swings of 7 and 11 percent. White voters, the largest racial group, increased their support of the Democratic candidate by just 2 percentage points, from 41 percent for Kerry to 43 percent for Obama.

In the battleground states that flipped, the very high Democratic vote share among nonwhite voters or increased turnout among nonwhite voters proved pivotal in Obama’s victory. Some of these states, such as Virginia and Indiana, also saw significant Democratic gains among whites, but Obama did not win majorities of these states’ whites and relied on overwhelming majorities from nonwhites to make up the deficit. The battleground states that Obama did not win are the exceptions that prove the rule. Obama failed to capture Montana and North Dakota because these states lack sizable minority populations, although he did make significant gains among whites. Missouri saw very little change in a highly polarized electorate.

Racial polarization in American voting patterns (the difference between black support for Democrats and white support for Democrats) was the highest it has been since the 1984 election. This resulted not from the increased appeal of Republicans to whites (as in the early 1980s), but to the increased attraction of nonwhites to the Democratic Party. http://www.bostonreview.net/BR34.1/ansolabehere_stewart.php​

Based on this, I'd guess that Obama would have lost without the black vote. It was large minority turnout in battleground states that gave Obama the edge in the states he picked up.

 

53 to 46 if you round correctly. and also i believe the percentages given were for the electorial votes