Pakistan - Destabilization & Division

Discussion in 'World Events' started by StrawDog, May 27, 2009.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. UltiTruth In pursuit... Registered Senior Member

    Messages:
    533
    Ok, since you believe religion should decide who lives in a country, you should leave Kashmir, Pakisthan and Afghanisthan to the Buddhists by your own admission and head off to some other country. Oh by the way, don't forget Buddhism is a relatively new religion with the buddhists being originally of Hindu descent. You also forget "Hindu" comes from Indus; how far you can go to to rub baseless theories/dreams! How much part of 4000 years of Kashmiris is Islam?

    And it is nice of you to admit how ethnic cleansing has occured over the region, thanks for your statistics too.

    No racism in Islam? you mean sunni=shia=mojahir=pakhtun? (by your own admission)
    Let us not even get into castes and creeds of muslims right now.
     
  2. Google AdSense Guest Advertisement



    to hide all adverts.
  3. iceaura Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    30,994
    That doesn't leave much of a role for the Pakistani military.

    They should go home.
     
  4. Google AdSense Guest Advertisement



    to hide all adverts.
  5. DiamondHearts Registered Senior Member

    Messages:
    2,557
    It is for the people living in their lands to decide how they should be governed. It is not the place of the enemies of the freedom and self-determination of Kashmiris and Muslims of the subcontinent to decide that for us.

    We choose Islam, because in the entire world, this is all that matters to us. Islam is the light which led our ancestors from darkness into light and continues to lead thousands of Hindus out of pagan idolatry into the sole worship of the One True God, the God of Abraham.

    Our ancestors may have been Buddhists, Zoroastrians, Hindus, Pagans, but they found the truth in Islam. We lead a life as Muslims because we choose this for ourselves. No amount of Hindu wishful thinking will bring us back into idolatry. Furthermore, those Hindus and Sikhs who killed the Mughal kings, who helped the British consolidate control over the free people of South Asia, and who then proceeded to massacre our people and steal our lands, how would we ever abandon the religion of God and the trust of our ancestors and embrace the religion of the tyrants and our murderers. Islam was and is debased today only because it has the potential to unite all the downtrodden people in the world, its call for unity and equality will last long after Hinduism and other religions fall into materialistic and shallow Atheism.

    Yet that didn't stop Vedic Hindus from massacring them and cleansing them from the subcontinent. Why do you think the Buddhists embraced Islam en masse during the Buddhist-Hindu wars? They found truth and equality in Islam, and they found the courage to resist Hindu domination.

    Yes, but the designation is not native, Hindu is a term invented by foreigners to categorize a number of pagan and polytheistic rituals loosely based on Aryan scriptures. The people of the Indus are the people now residing in Pakistan in the valleys of Punjab, Sindh, and Kashmir. The people of India are descended from Non-Aryan stock. They come from Dravidians who embraced the Aryan religions and mixed it with their tribal religious practices. What is a Hindu? A Hindu is anything you wish it to be, Atheism, Polytheism, Pantheism, Demon worship, Black magic, Human sacrifice. There is but one exception, a Hindu is not a Muslim. Muslims are monotheists who believe in One God, something which is opposed to the very nature of the ideology of all Hindu sects.

    As long as they have chosen to be. The majority will of the Kashmiri people desires self-determination and the rule of Islam, something which the brutal Indian military occupation of sovereign Kashmiri territory resists. Kashmiris will forever struggle for the freedom to live their lives the way they choose.

    Sunni and Shias are both Muslims. There are very few regions were there is conflict between Sunnis and Shias, Iraq under American occupation being the blatant exception. You can research the history of Iraq before the US began arming rival fringe groups to kill each other. All the violence is manufactured to cripple the legitimate national Iraqi resistance

    The Muhajir are not a race, but merely immigrants from India who fled to escape massacre and genocide against them in India. This trend for communal violence hasn't diminished in the least, as shown by Gujurat massacre of nearly 3,000 Muslims in 2002, and ongoing violence directed against Muslims and Christians in India by Hindu nationalists BJP, RSS, etc.

    The Pukhtoon are similarly an ethnic group, one of the major groups who are part of the federation of Pakistan, as well as the majority ethnic group in Afghanistan whom US forces, along with NATO and Indians, are exterminating in Afghanistan.

    The caste system is a remnant of a dying religion, and has no place in Islam. Islam clearly demonstrates its resistance to racism when it declares "O Mankind! Most certainly, it is We (God almighty) who have Created you all from a single (pair) of a male and a female, ind it is we who have made you into nations and tribes, that ye may recognise each other (not that ye may despise each other). Verily, the noblest of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most Righteous of you." Holy Quran 49:13

    With that, let's get back to the topic at hand. Please discuss topics relating to the specific circumstances of Pakistan and in relation to present state of affairs in Pakistan. Otherwise please create your own thread.
     
  6. Google AdSense Guest Advertisement



    to hide all adverts.
  7. UltiTruth In pursuit... Registered Senior Member

    Messages:
    533
    Yes, truth or death!
    The fear persists in you to this day, the brain-washing was so very complete, that you still can't see the truth after centuries, poor girl.

    So anything wrong with islamic divisions is always purported by forces external to islam?

    I welcome that. Let us stick to the rot of Pakisthan without jumping to India or Hindus for digression. Don't we agree the Pakisthani decay is intrinsic and near complete?
     
  8. DiamondHearts Registered Senior Member

    Messages:
    2,557
    Anyway StrawDog, thanks for creating this thread. It sure was educational while it lasted. I hope you post some more stories and articles here, I'd enjoy hearing more.
     
  9. The Esotericist Getting the message to Garcia Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    2,119
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page