Why do we have so many rules in society?

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by visceral_instinct, Aug 15, 2009.

  1. visceral_instinct Monkey see, monkey denigrate Valued Senior Member

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    I'm referring specifically to rules that don't relate to morality. Things like 'Don't wear X' rather than 'Don't kick puppies or rape people.'

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    This was kind of inspired by the emo thread. One user, I can't actually remember which one, posted a picture of a male with long hair and hairclips. Some people reacted like he'd committed some kind of moral crime, with one post actually reading 'I'd rip those out of his hair.'

    Why should someone not wear a small object in his own hair, on his own body?

    Wouldn't we make it easier for ourselves if people were allowed to do whatever they liked without disapproval so long as they harmed no one or caused no disruption? We cause unnecessary division and alienation with rules based on being "normal" rather than being moral.

    Thoughts?
     
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  3. Japarican Registered Senior Member

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    Individually, we don't all think alike about what society deems "normal". It would be nice if people were not so judgemental toward others based on the way they dress. However, in some situations you should be dressed appropriately. I personally don't care what others wear as long as their personality doesn't suck.
     
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  5. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    LOL, normal? I think the people who demand normalcy really want average. They want to be average, they want their kids to be average. And average is boring. I think its why I cling to my Chucks at 42 while others tell me to grow up.

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    In high school my Mom had a fit when I wanted to put a green streak in my hair. "No child of hers was....." Obviously what others thought mattered more. The opinion of strangers is an overwhelming influence on her life. I don't get it.
    People may think Marilyn Manson is a freak, but they thought the same of Alice Cooper. Both of whom laughed all the way to the bank.

    But I do have issues with piercings, especially gauging. Its so much more permanent than a headband.
     
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  7. CutsieMarie89 Zen Registered Senior Member

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    Because we should all be ideal or at least as close to it as we can get. At least that seems to be the trend. I don't think there are many cultures that truly encourage and are comfortable with dissent from this ideal.
     
  8. mike47 Banned Banned

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    Follow the crowd rule is wrong however certain values are shared by a given society .
     
  9. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    but why would a one inch piece of plastic put into a persons hair create such animosity?
     
  10. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    He's free to look like a fucking wimp if he wants, and it's actually society's rules that prevent his ass getting kicked left and right. Since I'm still on board with society, I can't kick his ass. When society breaks down though, that little pansy is fuckin done...
     
  11. mike47 Banned Banned

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    Maybe they look weird...hahaha.
     
  12. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    And I feel that way about guys wearing their pants low. Yet I would never yank their pants down.
    As long as my kids have certain body parts covered and are dressed situation appropriate (no tube tops to a funeral) I don't see the reason to get my knickers in a knot.
     
  13. shorty_37 Go! Canada Go! Registered Senior Member

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    Yes.... I would be the guilty one who as a mother would rip those hair clips out if he was my son. I still stand by it!

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    Honestly V_I if my son's decided to dress like that, they would probably be bullied severely at school.

    My older one actually had this friend last yr that was pretty close to being an Emo kid minus the hair clips. He was the shadiest kid that my son has ever brought around here. He always had his head down with his hair in his eyes and his hood up on his hoodie. He would never look you in the eyes or say hello or anything. Overall he was just really weird. When I would leave and hear them in the garage though he had the biggest foul mouth. When I was around quiet as a mouse. Then I found out he was into things that 13 yr old shouldn't be in to. I then told my son I didn't want to see him around here anymore. I wouldn't even trust this kid in my house he acted so shady.

    I let my kids dress how they want. I can't imagine either of them coming out dressed like girls though, so I don't think I will ever have to cross that road.

    If they want tatoos when they are older or piercings I won't stand in their way as long as they are of age, it's their body.

    But come on, you must be able to see why some of us would have a problem esp a father seeing their grown son with girly berets and headbands in their hair?
     
  14. shorty_37 Go! Canada Go! Registered Senior Member

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    So it would be cool with you and your husband for your son to wear a pink headband and purple hair clips in his hair at the annual Fishing Derby?
     
  15. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Because there's so many assholes trying to run it!

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  16. visceral_instinct Monkey see, monkey denigrate Valued Senior Member

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    So you think it's ok to beat someone up because you don't like the way they look? Even if they never wronged you or anyone else?

    I'd understand that coming from a 12 year old boy trying to look hard. Coming from an adult and a father, it's quite alarming.
     
  17. visceral_instinct Monkey see, monkey denigrate Valued Senior Member

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    Yes I understand but I don't think it's okay. Most emos are just regular kids who happen to like a certain style. I know quite a few and I can't find one who fits that whining wimp stereotype. I do know one who probably has ADHD, but nope, no wrist slashers in this area.
     
  18. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    Nonsense.

    Life has become generally, very peaceful in the west. Your generation seems to be trying to find the boundaries of that peace. By acting as fucking pathetic as possible. I guess it's a good thing. But make no mistake, if society tolerated violence in even a minor way, that kid would be finished. Most of your generation would probably just roll over and kill themselves if they had to deal with any real problems.
     
  19. shorty_37 Go! Canada Go! Registered Senior Member

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    I am not for bullying other kids in no way shape or form, but when a teenage boy dresses like that he is kinda asking for it by other boys his age.

    I am not saying it is ok for kids to go around beating up other kids but I could understand if this kid did get beaten up if I found out he wore girly accessories in his hair.

    The only time I stand by it was like last yr when my youngest finally punched some kid in the nose because he pushed him to the ground and was constantly bugging him. If it is in self defense it is a different story.

    If I found out my oldest and his friends went to the park and were bullying or beat the shit out of some kid for no reason...........He would be in BIG SHIT! I wouldn't take that kind of thing lightly.s
     
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  20. visceral_instinct Monkey see, monkey denigrate Valued Senior Member

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    I notice you didn't even bother answering my point, just spewed more emotionally based nonsense.

    If I acted like you I'd be dismissed as a spoilt teen having a hissy fit.

    See this post in the other thread

    Does that count as a real problem? Or do I have to have a serious disorder too before I qualify?

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  21. mike47 Banned Banned

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    The good thing is that rules keep on changing with time .
     
  22. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    Exactly. I've BEEN ACTING LIKE YOU in both threads. See my point? That's why a lot of people don't even bother to try to set you straight anymore.
     
  23. visceral_instinct Monkey see, monkey denigrate Valued Senior Member

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    Sure, I have an angry disposition. I also tend to spell out using a reasoned argument exactly why I disagree with something. Unlike you, throwing a tantrum because a) you don't like someone being allowed to wear a piece of plastic and b) I pointed out how that is unreasonable.
     

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