Can we buy American pruducts cheaper from china?

Discussion in 'Business & Economics' started by clusteringflux, Sep 23, 2009.

  1. clusteringflux Version 1. OH! Valued Senior Member

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    I just ran across a site called www.Madeinchina.com. And theres more just like it.

    They have expensive Gibson guitars stamped "made in USA" on the headstock for around 1/4 to 1/3 what you would pay for them here. It's marked in US Dollars and many claim to ship free.

    Something smells funny about it, but what I want to know is if that's even possible on an economic level to ship real US made products from China cheaper than you can get them here?
     
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  3. Grim_Reaper I Am Death Destroyer of Worlds Registered Senior Member

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    First off they are not real they are like knock-offs if they ae being shipped from China.. And second no you would not be able to ship from China a US made product for less money. As there would be double the shipping charge unless they are drop shipped like what Amazon does.
     
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  5. clusteringflux Version 1. OH! Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, I'm wondering if some are real American bodies but assembled and finished over there? It would seem a quick run of the serial number would tell you a lot.
     
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  7. sandy Banned Banned

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    Or did Gibson just sell them cheaper to China? At a better price? Bulk?
     
  8. one_raven God is a Chinese Whisper Valued Senior Member

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    Slave labor.
    Lack of regulations (such as bans on lead-based paint).

    This is why we had tarriffs on China.
    This is why we lost all our manufacturing jobs to China.
    Reagan did away with the tarriffs - in the name of free trade and free market.
     
  9. clusteringflux Version 1. OH! Valued Senior Member

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    Also a possibility. They spit Gibsons and Fenders out so fast now that the quality has suffered. That would suggest that they don't have much money into making them.
    It could be a trade off for cheap elec/etc. components that they've been charging a mint for here.
     
  10. clusteringflux Version 1. OH! Valued Senior Member

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    But they're being marketed as "made in the USA". One would suspect that as an outright lie, yet is there any possibility that it could be true?
     
  11. one_raven God is a Chinese Whisper Valued Senior Member

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    I highly doubt it is true.
    It IS possible, though, that they Gibson has them made in China and just has some lackey string it in a warehouse in the US, and they slap a "Made in the USA" sticker on it.
    Maybe this is the source and you are cutting out the middle man.
     
  12. clusteringflux Version 1. OH! Valued Senior Member

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    Gibson engraves it in about 1/8 inch letters right in the wood before its painted and finished.

    And the chinese seem to be particularly happy to put "Made in China" on their products.

    I think their plan is to have that phrase visible to every American in every direction you look at any given time. That's a joke of course.
     
  13. John99 Banned Banned

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    Gibson name means it is u.s made...Epiphone means it is made in Korea.
     
  14. John99 Banned Banned

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    Fender = U.S and Mexico
    Esquire = Korea
     
  15. John99 Banned Banned

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    Ibanez = Japan
     
  16. Doreen Valued Senior Member

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    Buy them, buy them.

    Tariffs are unamerican anyway. Free markets. Competition. No government interference. If American companies can't compete, tough.

    Natural selection.

    We can't complain about communist control of the market and then discriminate against their successful businesses.

    We must show them our faith in Adam Smith and trickle down and free enterprise!

    Long live Reagan Thatcher!

    Actually I am not sure which is the last name or the first name.
     
  17. mike47 Banned Banned

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    Chinese merchandise is everywhere now . I read a report that 70% of toys are in France are from China . Of course the labour cost is cheap there and also the standard of living is bad . In many parts of China people still eat mice, dogs, cats.....etc . I mark a country on the standard of living of its citizens. China has a low standard of leaving . To buy home made products help the nation to save Jobs and to prosper . Also the quality of " made in China " is not great .
     
  18. Doreen Valued Senior Member

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    Why should we sacrifice because US companies - many of whom are over there anyway having long ago abandoned US workers - can't make their products cheaply. And buying Chinese products increases the flow of capital into China so they can shift from eating Dogs to Cows - not sure why this matter, but it can happen anyway. Once more capital flows into the country the workers will be able to demand more wages. I mean, welcome to capitalism. The cheap, equivalent product wins, unless you can brand the poop out of your product.
     
  19. 2inquisitive The Devil is in the details Registered Senior Member

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    They are not real Gibson guitars, they are fakes. Chinese manufacturers do this with many, many brand name articles. You will see Rolex watches, Guccci handbags, True Religion jeans, ect. Many of the current fake True Religion jeans,for example, will have a "made in USA" tag sewn into them, imitating the authentic jeans.

    one_raven,
    Mostly all true, with the exception of the reference to Reagan. China's entry into the WTO, and the reduction of tariffs, came well into Clinton's term in the mid 90's.
     
  20. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    Just curious... Got an opinion on why the U.S is now fucking Canada on the Freetrade, NAFTA, whateverthefucktheycallitnow?

    We don't have slave labour. (in fact most American companies I've worked for , bitch loudly about Canadian Labour rights)
     

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