Book of Mormon: true or false?

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  1. Dinosaur Rational Skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    It is not the Koran which proves the Book of Mormon is fallacious. It is the Chronicles of Isis, Osiris, & Ra. I do not know how to read hieroglyphics & have been looking for a translation.

    Postings in another thread claim that the ancient Egyptians knew everything, which is what sent me on my quest for the Chronicles.

    If I do not find a translation of the chronicles, I think I will investigate Zeus, Apollo, Aphrodite, et cetera. I always admired the Greeks of the Golden Age. Maybe they had the right ideas way back when.

    These recent religions like Islam, Christianity, LDS, Scientology, et cetera do not impress me, although maybe Wicca has some good ideas. I wonder how old Wicca is?
     
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  3. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    bout 50 years
     
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  5. Dinosaur Rational Skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    I thought Wicca was based on The Driuds or some other very old culture.
     
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  7. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    based on but not a direct link to.
     
  8. -ND- Human Prototype Registered Senior Member

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    Is it true that in the book of Mormon, it says that if you do not believe in Mormon you will burn in hell?
     
  9. PieAreSquared Woo is resistant to reason Registered Senior Member

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    Book of Mormon: true or false?

    false... just another religious spin from a shyster ...in the US is all

    mose only had stone tablets... JS had golden ones...whoa... and magic glasses
     
  10. -ND- Human Prototype Registered Senior Member

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    anyone can answer my question?
     
  11. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    The book of mormon is bullshit.
     
  12. dixonmassey Valued Senior Member

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    All religious books are Bull Shit as far as answers to eternal questions go. The newer the book the stronger the stench, the greater efforts are required to brainwash oneself into believing it. Of course I have not read all the religious scripts, but you don't really need to do that, it's ALL BULLSHIT.
     
  13. -ND- Human Prototype Registered Senior Member

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    So im assuming that it does claim you will go to hell. If that is the case, I feel sorry for all mormons and their sad religion;cult more like.
     
  14. jmpet Valued Senior Member

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    Why is this thread still alive? The book of Mormon is a joke, end of discussion.
     
  15. Diode-Man Awesome User Title Registered Senior Member

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    Any entities proposing to be God are merely creatures with super advanced technology perpetuating the greatest hoax of all time.

    I haven't seen any of them, but lot's of preachers and other SOBs make claims.....
     
  16. WarAgainstError Registered Member

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    I have the Book of Mormon but have not been able to get through it due to time issues and other readings on my list.
     
  17. Marlin Registered Senior Member

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    It says no such thing. Mormon was just a man, a prophet-historian who abridged the history of an ancient people.

    The message of the Book of Mormon is to believe in Christ, not Mormon.
     
  18. Drakkula Registered Senior Member

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    Five questions you should ask yourself about the validity of the book of Mormons:

    1. Linguistics. Why, if the American Indians were descended from Lehi, was there such diversity in their languages, and why were there no vestiges of Hebrew in any of them?
    2. Why does the Book of Mormon say that Lehi found horses when he arrived in America? The horse did not exist in the Americas until the Spaniards brought them over in the sixteenth century.
    3. Why was Nephi stated to have a bow of steel? Jews did not have steel at that time, and no iron was smelted in the Americas until the Spanish colonization.
    4. Why does the Book of Mormon mention “swords and cimeters” when scimitars (the current spelling) did not come about until the rise of Islam after 500 A.D.?
    5. Why does the Book of Mormon mention silk, when silk did not exist in the Americas at that time?

    The evidence is clear that the Book of Mormons cannot be correct, and Joseph Smith was a false prophet who has deceived many.

    Maybe they should change their name to the Church of Morons.
     
  19. John99 Banned Banned

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    how do you know?
     
  20. Marlin Registered Senior Member

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    All of these concerns have been successfully addressed by LDS (Mormon) apologists. I suggest that anyone who has such questions should have a look at FAIR Apologetics
     
  21. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    They were extinct, that's a well known fact.
     
  22. Marlin Registered Senior Member

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    Here are some quotes taken from an article called Horses in the Book of Mormon:

    "Horses are mentioned only once in the land northward during the Jaredite period—that is, during the prosperous reign of King Emer around 2500 B.C. and before the great drought sometime in the third millennium B.C. (see Ether 9:19, 30—35). Since horses are not mentioned again in the Jaredite record, it is possible that they became extinct in the region north of the narrow neck of land following that time.

    "Horses were known to some Nephites and Lamanites from about 600 B.C. to the time of the Savior. They were found in the "land of first inheritance" during the time of Nephi, son of Lehi (see 1 Nephi 18:25), and in the land of Nephi during the days of Enos (see Enos 1:21). They were also utilized by at least some of the Lamanite elite during the days of King Lamoni in the same general region during the first century B.C. (see Alma 18:9—12). The text does not mention horses in the land of Nephi after that time. The only other region associated with horses was the general land of Zarahemla at the time of the war with the Gadianton robbers, just prior to the birth of Jesus Christ (see 3 Nephi 3:22; 4:4; 6:1). There is no indication in the text that horses were indigenous to that region. The Savior's reference to horses in 3 Nephi 21:14 is a prophecy of the latter days and need not be interpreted as referring to Nephite horses. In the Book of Mormon, horses are never mentioned after the time of Christ.

    "In short, the Book of Mormon claims only that horses were known to some New World peoples before the time of Christ in certain limited regions of the New World. Thus we need not conclude from the text that horses were universally known in the Americas throughout pre-Columbian history. . . ."

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    "Even if horses had been abundantly used and had been a vital element in the culture of Book of Mormon people (a claim never made by Book of Mormon writers), one cannot assume that evidence for this would be plentiful or obvious from the current archaeological record. . . ."

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    "The horse was the basis of the wealth and military power of the Huns of central Asia (fourth and fifth centuries A.D.). Nonetheless, according to S. Bokonyi, a leading authority on the zoological record for central Asia, "We know very little of the Huns' horses. It is interesting that not a single usable horse bone has been found in the territory of the whole empire of the Huns. This is all the more deplorable as contemporary sources mention these horses with high appreciation."5

    "The lack of archaeological evidence for the Hunnic horse is rather significant in terms of references to horses in the Book of Mormon. During the two centuries of their dominance, the Huns must have possessed hundreds of thousands of horses. If Hunnic horse bones are so rare, notwithstanding the abundance of horses during the Hunnic empire, how can we expect abundant archaeological evidence for pre-Columbian horses in the New World, especially given the scant and comparatively conservative references to horses by Book of Mormon writers? . . ."

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    "Given the limitations of zoo-archaeology, and also those of other potentially helpful disciplines when probing many centuries into the forgotten past, it is unwise to dismiss the references in the Book of Mormon to horses as erroneous."
     
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