Warhammer 40k Vs StarTrek

Discussion in 'SciFi & Fantasy' started by Fettman, Jun 4, 2007.

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Who would win?

  1. Warhammer40k

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  2. StarTrek

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  1. SaphireKosmos Registered Member

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    would make it more interesting though.
     
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  3. Fettman #1 Bounty Hunter Registered Senior Member

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    The Eldar alone could beat ST the imperium of man would just bomb the crap out of everything and send IG to clear everything up and when it came to the borg the SM would bord their cubes and kill anything that moved then blow up the cube for fun.
     
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  5. SaphireKosmos Registered Member

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    end it alot faster too
     
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  7. Fettman #1 Bounty Hunter Registered Senior Member

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    How would the Feds react to the the Eye of terror?
    The feds ships wouldnt want to go into the warp, unless the captian really likes Demons eating his crew.
     
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  8. therealjamie2 Registered Member

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    my first post

    speaking as a huge trekkie, even if the Borg, the Dominion, the Cardassians. the UFP, the Klingon Empire and the Rmulan Star Empire united to repel a Crusade, they would get anhillated, can you say Titan? Emperror class Ship? Terminator Chaplin? Dreadnought? Landraider? or the "untold BILLIONS" of the Imperial Guard? what is Riker going to do against a fucking Lemman Russ?
     
  9. Fettman #1 Bounty Hunter Registered Senior Member

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    I was watching ST and a Borg ship was able to destroy 40 ships which is sadly the largest loss in federation history sad because they only produce a few hundred ships! But a necron Tomb Ship can fire one weapon and destroy 60 ships at the same time, Borg have trillions but necrons have thousands of Tomb worlds packed with them.
     
  10. Fettman #1 Bounty Hunter Registered Senior Member

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    After your fleets are Destroyed, citys will be filled with Guardsmen, Space Marines and Titans and all shall give you the Emperors swift mercy, and in Borg controled space nothing but Chaos or Necron fleets and in the Klingon Empire, nothing but waves of Green as the Mighty Ork plunder your worlds!
    And finaly Q shall no longer exist thanks to the Chaos GODS!
     
  11. Fettman #1 Bounty Hunter Registered Senior Member

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    Some ppl think Warhammer 40k is fantasy well its not its gothic sicfi
     
  12. Au'nel Shi'o'res Registered Member

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    Don't forget that all machines serve the C'tan in the end so the borg would be working for the necrons along with all other forms of technology including all the other races ships.
     
  13. Renrue Someone Registered Senior Member

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    It's actually classified as science fantasy.
     
  14. alpinedigital Registered Senior Member

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    I''ve halfway followed a tiny bit of this debate and Im not deep into warhammer but it seems that some of the more magical fantasy stuff from Warhammer is crossing into territories where if that stuff is allowed, then Q should also be. Anything that deep into the realm of paranormal or beyond - yeah. Then its game over.

    I'd like to say this was entertaining but...
     
  15. IvanTih Registered Senior Member

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    Sorry for necromancy,but here's why 40k wins.
    Who cares if the tech is more advance,dthe efficiency matters I can shot you with a lasgun you're dead same matters for phaser.
    40k ships weapons strength is measured in teratons and petatons.
    Nova cannon does some 22 petatons,most arhaic torpedoes do 610 gigatons while standard do 2.9 petatons.
    In one novel an imperial sips activated it's void shield while crashlanding on a planet and tore a chunk of it.
    Warp engines when detonate too close to the planet can destroy a huge part of it.
    Naval battles last for weeks and in some cases even months so star trek is cushed.
    Necrons are made completly of metal they don't have any electronics(a necron once reformed from a pile of molten metal) so borg can't assimilate them.
    Borg cannot adapt to anything as everyone thinks.
    Largest necron ships can battle ten largest imperial ships and win.
    So even a escort would own a whole starfleet.
     
  16. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    agreed, I think the chaos gods and the Q should pretty much cancel each other out...
     
  17. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    A single escort couldn't own starfleet.

    Id say it would have to come down to two fleets fighting head to head. ST has the maneuvorability and speed factor but WH40k has the numbers, armor/shields, and firepower advantage.
     
  18. Nasor Valued Senior Member

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    The real reason why 40k would easily win, even ignoring issues of who has better tech etc, is simple numbers. I don't remember exactly how many ships are supposed to be in the Imperial Navy, but it's in some ridiculous number of MILLIONS of capital ships that are 1+ km long, and countless more smaller escorts, scouts, etc. Even if the Federation could slaughter 40k ships all day an night with easy, it would hardly make a dent in the numbers.
     
  19. IvanTih Registered Senior Member

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    And when has Starfleet unleashed petatons of power.Your maneuvorability and speed won't help you if you can't even scratch a ship.
    Nice try getting through void shielding and when it fails good luck taking down the armor.
     
  20. Nasor Valued Senior Member

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    More to the point, necrons are basically magic. They're disembodied souls stuck inside magically-animated metal shells. Good luck trying to assimilate that.

    There's also the whole speed issue. 40K ships have FTL that's a hell of a lot faster than startrek ships, which would make it impossible for ST ships to mount a coherent defense. If you have your fleet in one place, the 40k ships can just attack somewhere else. If you spread your fleet around to guard everywhere at once, it will always be a few fed ships vs. the entire 40k fleet.

    But like I said, it's all kind of pointless anyway, when you consider the simple numbers. If you go by the Battlefleet Gothic codex, there's something like 150 million capital ships in the Imperial Navy. Which seems like a lot, until you recall that they have about a billion inhabited planets, so it's actually only about one ship for every 6-7 planets.
     
  21. IvanTih Registered Senior Member

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    The Imperial fleet since it began to serve had about a million ships,more or less throughout the millenia.
    The million worlds thing is just poetic the Imperium has about some 3 to 5 million worlds.
    A typical sector fleet numbers between 50-75 ships.
    Necron bodies aren't magic,they're just highly advanced nanotechnology.
     
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  22. Nasor Valued Senior Member

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    If you go by the Battlefleet Gothic codex, it's about 140 million. Where exactly are you getting your 1 million number from? Your claim that they only ever had a million ships more or less is obviously false, because there have been single instances where the imperial navy lost millions of ships at a time in big disasters. Although it was a big deal, it didn't cripple the imperium or destroy the imperial navy or anything; so obviously they can absorb a loss of several million ships and continue to function.

    Also, it's a billion planets, not million. Again, where are you getting your info about it only being 3-5 million planets? I have never seen anything to indicate that the billion planets claim wasn't literal. Given that the imperium spans a huge chunk of the galaxy, a billion planets seems pretty reasonable.
    Uh...they're inhabited by disembodied souls. It's not like there's a computer brain in there running a program or something; a formerly-living necron had his soul sucked out of his body and stuck into the machine body. If that isn't magic, I don't know what is.
     
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  23. IvanTih Registered Senior Member

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    I was speaking about the Living metal or Necrodermis when I said that their bodies are a highly advanced nanotechnology.
    It was stated in Horus Heresy series that the Imperial fleet numbered a millions ships throughout the milllenia.
    The Imperium doesn't have a billion planets because there isn't a billion habitable planets in the galaxy and the terraforming is a lost technology.
    Ask the users at the warseers or dakkadakka and they will say the same thing as I.
     

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