uno, you have to provide the number, you cannot make an absurd claim and tell people to get your evidence for you. If you in fact could not find evidence because you were lazy than you are no scientist but just a wannabee. If you did find the answer and you are keeping it from us for any reason like you know that it proves you wrong, than you are scum.
The value is extremely material in determining whether you are capable of doing a serious discussion about this thread subject. So far, you have crapped out.
I definitely do not consider you and me to be peers. Hold your breath until I address you in any of your delusional ways. Start now.
:roflmao: Seriously? Is that all you've got? Sidestepping the points I raise in favour of going for the ad-hominem. I thought you had an argument?
“ Based on the failure of Truss seat connections, NIST estimates that the static capacity of an undamaged floor was 4.8 PSI against uplift pressure, and 4.4 PSI against dowards pressure ” -------------------------------------------------------------------------- UNO HOO replies; Thanks for, although in your convoluted way, for giving me your numbers to work with. Maybe you are not a total crook after all. Let's see here now. 4.4 PSI x 144 = 633.6 POUNDS PER SQUARE FOOT. So, you have dug up numbers that show that the towers floor structures were designed to carry 633 POUNDS PER SQUARE FOOT of live load. Thanks for making your stab at it. At the moment of initiation of floor collapse, there were practically no people at all residing on the floors. Most of the combustibles had already burned up, I expect that you would claim. What is left for floor live load? A metal desk here and there? 200 pounds? A metal file cabinet here and there? 50 pounds? Total 250 pounds in an average 20 foot x 20 foot space? Total 250 pounds for a 400 square foot floor area? That's about 0.6 pounds per square foot live load. Less than 1 pound per square foot live load on a floor structure, according to your own numbers, designed to carry 633 POUNDS PER SQUARE FOOT. So, according to you all, a floor truss/column system designed, according to your own numbers, to support 633 POUNDS PER SQUARE FOOT, actually loaded with less than 1 pound per square foot, fell down. A column system designed to vertically support, and to resist the resultant horizontal tug of, a floor live load of 633 POUNDS PER SQUARE FOOT, failed under a floor load pf less than 1 pound per square foot. According to your own floor load design number, and according to your own logic. Yes, Virginia, and when you let go of the rope holding the reindeer, Santa Claus will fall up and dash away high into the sky. Did you make out your present list and check it twice? Maybe some lump of coal for you.
How do you get any of your reaction time numbers? You are making them up. You are dreaming and then getting your dream confused with reality. You have not written any numbers regarding how quickly the plane could maneuver. You apparently have no idea how quickly the specific plane could have changed pitch or yaw. Your reaction time numbers are pure fiction and are totally worthless. This thread must be seen as a clumsy attempt to generate readership via the age old snake oil hokum. Say something completely absurd, and get a gang of people running up to argue with you. This thread is obviously not a sincere attempt to carefully examine the event. The opening post is so disjointed and ambiguous that it can only be categorized as literary scum.
So far Uno Hoo shows up to say nothing. Then makes a few straw man arguments and claims them to be important when they are not. They offer no evidence and claim everyone is wrong. Big deal. The buildings did not fail because of the floor strength.
First off uno, how maneuvrable is a 767? Its not a fu###### jet fighter, hell, not even a jet fighter could turn that quickly. And I came up with the calculations based on the speed of the plane, the distance at which a human eye can reliably count the number of floors without having issues of realtive speed and other variables. those planes can not maneuver quickly, they were meant to travel at long range not to turn on a dime. Uno, dispute my numbers, I dare you to you coward, give me some of your own numbers in return and prove them. Otherwise I am right and you are wrong, you cant point a finger and say you are wrong and than just say "because I said so" that makes you scum. So prove it uno, or go back to the cesspool.
Dear delusional Trippy; I am not in the least concerned about your opinion of my qualifications. For the record, I definitely do not consider you and me to be peer, or, in other words, equals. Who cares what your delusional psyche expects. In general human experience, the only persona who demands that it be addressed as you write is Satan. Tell us, with no wishy-washy screwing around; are you claiming that you are Satan?
On the contrary to your wildly erroneous assessment, based without doubt upon your complete ignorance of me and my accomplishments, due in general to your increasingly obvious general ignorance, I am the very opposite of pathetic. On the other hand, your attempt to personally insult me and arouse me to emotional retort, really is truly abysmally pathetic.
Once again, like a coward, or an idiot, you sidestep addressing the points that have been raised in favour of engaging in personal insults. Wassamatta? Got nothing left? Out of arguments?
You have totally failed to provide any references, any sources, any proof of any nature, to back up your wild assertion about the maneuverability of the airplane types associated with twin tower 9/11. I guess that means, according to your own dictates, that you are a scum and must swim back into your own cesspool. Remember to keep your mouth shut or you will get cess in your mouth.
Government secrecy and lies did not show any evidence that Al Qaida was involved in any way . According to the Administration account of events no judge will convict Al Qaeda or Bin Laden because no evidence was given . Propaganda and lies are NO evidence in a court of law although they are excellent machines to brainwash the politically blind folks .
Sa has racial conotations. I've already outlined in plain english the titles that I consider appropriate for you to address me by. And as far as your 'plainly worded question' goes, I had not deemed it worthy of an answer, mostly because you have yet to demonstrate how it is even remotely implied by anything i've said, or, for that matter, relevant to the thread. Prove relevance to anything i've said. Then prove relevance to the thread, and I will reconsider further response.