ADHD kids learn better by "stimming"

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  1. visceral_instinct Monkey see, monkey denigrate Valued Senior Member

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  3. Trippy ALEA IACTA EST Staff Member

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    Common sense to me as well.

    I used to tutor someone with ADHD and dyslexia.
    When we were studying for their exams, I let her fidget, doodle, and do what they needed to while we were reviewing their notes, and while I was quizing them.

    This resulted in them attaining their best test marks ever.
     
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  5. Algernon Registered Senior Member

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    I definately learn better by tapping and making facial expressions.

    And thats even on my meds. I think ADHD is not the lack of attention, but rather the lack of focus of the attention onto one thing. If you were able to channel a person's attention onto one subject, their productivity would increase.
     
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  7. CutsieMarie89 Zen Registered Senior Member

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    As long as their moving isn't disruptive, some teachers don't seem to mind putting up with it. At least in my brother's case they didn't. He would stand up to write, so he was put in the back so other kids wouldn't have trouble seeing over him. But if he had no interest in learning something he would start to wander around the room, which was distracting to other students and he wasn't learning either so that couldn't be tolerated.
     
  8. shichimenshyo Caught in the machine Registered Senior Member

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    I have ADHD and if I am not aloud to fidget I cannot focus ...at all.
     
  9. mike47 Banned Banned

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    Schools in general suffer from certain attitude of racism, bias, and are full of tricks . Believing the school staff is a huge mistake . Teachers in general want to get rid of students who display a bit of difference . I know parents who go to hell with teachers, principals and usually principals back teachers against parents . The school system is like a mafia system : from them to them and they want to rule your life . Do not trust then folks .
     
  10. Cath Registered Member

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    Has many of you know June's 2 boy's had ADHD and she was forever telling the school that if they let her youngest fidget and move around then he would get more work done, however from the schools side, (and you do have to look at both sides to the issue) if one child is allowed to move around then it can be disruptive to other children.

    June on many occassions fought the school system (sometimes very verbally, and often resulting her being removed from the school by the police), when her youngest son did his homework at home he was allowed to run around, fidget and he did do his work, and he did it to a standard that the school could not understand, his work at school was messy and often thrown away by the teacher, but his homework was allways correct and tidy, because she allowed him to fidget and move around.

    June allways said that, the medication only did so much, some of the behaviour was learned over the time before medication and it was just bad habits, in the end he was sent to a specialist school for children with ADHD, (after a long and tedious fight on June's part). What schools need to understand is, that ADHD children work better with organised and worked out systems at school. If the child knows where he is supposed to be and with a routine in place they work better.
     
  11. mike47 Banned Banned

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    There are meds for ADHD but they are very expensive if you do not have an insurance coverage .
     
  12. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    Fidgeting is good for children.
    Burns off the calories.

    Perhaps obese children could be taught to fidget.
     
  13. visceral_instinct Monkey see, monkey denigrate Valued Senior Member

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    Fucking hell.

    Why does it matter if kids stay still or not so long as they get the work done and do well at it?

    Stupid right-wayism..

    Yeah, I always used to move around a little bit, like mess with a pen or curl and uncurl my fingers, but since I wasn't blocking anyone's view or otherwise disrupting the class, they didn't really mind.
     
  14. Cath Registered Member

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    Some teachers seem to think, that if the kids are not doing things the way they want then, that's the wrong way.

    Teachers from what I can tell know very little about ADHD or any other condition for that matter.
     
  15. Nasor Valued Senior Member

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    Most elementary teachers know very little about anything. I recall seeing a study from a few years ago showing that when graduating college students were given a comprehensive test of various subjects, the education majors did worse on the science portion of the test than the English majors and worse on the English portion of the test than the science majors. I'll have to see if I can find a reference for it...
     
  16. Grim_Reaper I Am Death Destroyer of Worlds Registered Senior Member

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    Being a father of a ADHD Child I agree with what they say here and if the child is stopped from doing this they actually lose interest and become worse at least that is what happened in my Daughters case. And then they begin to feel bad about themselves because they cannot keep up with the other kids due to lack of concentration.
     
  17. Cath Registered Member

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    Please do I would be interested in reading it.
     
  18. Nasor Valued Senior Member

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    I couldn't quickly find the reference, but this data is rather telling:
    http://www.ncsu.edu/chass/philo/GRE Scores by Intended Graduate Major.htm

    Not surprisingly, the verbal and writing portions were dominated by the literature and humanities majors, while the math portion was dominated by the science and engineering majors...but the elementary education majors were near the bottom in all categories. The science majors and English majors consistently did better than the education majors in all categories.
     
  19. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Or maybe they should be taught to eat healthy

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  20. CutsieMarie89 Zen Registered Senior Member

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    I guess my brother was lucky then. Once my mother explained things to them they were all okay with it, as long as he wasn't disruptive. Of course then my brother started limiting his own movement because he felt embarrassed by it and then couldn't concentrate. So then he was diagnosed with a learning disability and had to spend time each week with the special education teacher. But his schools have all been more than willing to cooperate. His behavior wasn't as disruptive as some kids, like my elder cousin who use to fling his shoes at other children. I could see why his teachers wouldn't want to put up with that.
     
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    The writer admits that everybody experiences this, we must all have ADHD correct? Obviously it is an exaggeration to say that it's like this for ADHD kids 'all the time'. If that were the case then ADHD kids would get a zero on every single test since they could never comprehend what they're reading. No posts on the Internet by ADHD people since they wouldn't be able understand what they're typing. So where is the cut-off for normal brains and ADHD brains? Say if I experience this four times an hour while reading a book then I have a normal brain, any more than this then I have an ADHD brain.

    This isn't surprising at all since ADHD is a made-up fictitious disorder. Apparently this is a disorder like no other, it turns off when people are watching movies or maybe playing video games, but becomes active when school work is required.

    When people are bored, their minds wander. When people are interested they stay focused. This is normal human behaviour. You're twiddling your thumbs, you must have a brain disorder. You're jumping up and down in your seat, you must have a brain disorder. The teacher is boring you to tears, you must have a brain disorder. You're doodling while talking on the phone, you must have a brain disorder. You're spinning a coin on the table to entertain yourself, you must have a brain disorder.
    Here's a tale of one man's quest for proof of the existence of ADHD...

    http://psychrights.org/Research/Digest/ADHD/ADHDAsFraud.htm

    http://www.ritalindeath.com/ADHD-Fraud.htm
     
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  22. mike47 Banned Banned

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    ADHD has many factors including not responding to commands and violence which are very disturbing and would imply some meds for control and studying .
     
  23. visceral_instinct Monkey see, monkey denigrate Valued Senior Member

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    Bullshit.

    I have heard ADD/ADHD people describe not being able to concentrate even when they LIKE the subject. What do you call that, exactly?
     

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