ADHD kids learn better by "stimming"

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by visceral_instinct, Dec 11, 2009.

  1. Zeno Registered Senior Member

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    Well,
    Let's hear from somebody with ADD from this website...
    http://lifewithadhd.com/famous-people-with-adhd
    http://add.about.com/od/adhdthebasics/a/myths-adhd.htm
    Interestingly, this disorder is defined as not being able to concentrate, but also being able to concentrate so much it is called hyperfocusing. So which is it?
     
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  3. Doreen Valued Senior Member

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    It seems kinda like a 'duh' to me. Let's say sitting passively and listening to the teacher is, by some miracle, the best way to learn for most kids. Still, there are bound to be some who like to be more active. They might do very well learning things in a more physical, varied way of learning. Note - I am not remotely implying that the subjects they need to learn are more working class. You can teach ANYTHING actively. They can learn math as part of small building projects and their focus might get better if they actually connected what they were doing to something practical.

    But no, if you get antsy sitting still WHEN YOU ARE A CHILD, then you have some pathology, need a label, probably drugs, etc.

    Duh.
     
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  5. CheskiChips Banned Banned

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    Both ADD and ADHD basically just mean 'undisciplined'. People who supposedly have these 'disorders' that I've talked to act like concentrating on topics I don't enjoy is somehow easy for me - but difficult for them. Please.

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  7. Nasor Valued Senior Member

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    Uhh...the answer is in the quoted block of text. Did you actually bother to read it? "It is actually more appropriate to describe ADHD as a condition in which individuals have difficulty regulating their attention. "
     
  8. Nasor Valued Senior Member

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    You might find it tedious or boring to concentrate on things that you don't enjoy, but that doesn't mean it's actually "difficult" for you. It is very unlikely that a normal person could "fail" when attempting to concentrate on something; if they stop concentrating, it's probably because they deliberately decided to stop due to boredom etc, assuming there aren't overwhelming external distractions. There is a big difference between being unable to concentrate on something and unwilling to concentrate on something.

    It's rather analogous to being told to go stand in the corner facing the wall for an hour. It's easy to do, even though it's tedious and boring. If you get bored and decide to go do something else before the hour is up, it's probably because you consciously decided to quit, rather than any difficulty with the actual task per se.
     
  9. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    The larger the class, the more likely disruptive fidgeting becomes - two extreme fidgeters are more than twice as disruptive as one, four or five and you haven't got a class, and the threshold is lower for a larger and necessarily more regimented class in the first place.

    If class sizes are small enough, you don't have to drug any but the actually pathological - a rarely encountered subset - to keep reasonable order.

    When I was in grade school, we had "recess" twice a day every day - and it was not standing around in a gym.
     
  10. Cath Registered Member

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    You are so wrong, ADHD/ADD are a chemical inbalance in the brain, it is NOT about being a bad mum or dad, I know a child with the condition and his mum was on top of his behaviour regards to telling off, and he is manic at times, it's about time that people look into the condition without passing judgment on mums and dads.
     
  11. visceral_instinct Monkey see, monkey denigrate Valued Senior Member

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    They should, but human beings are mostly coldblooded pieces of crap, who would rather judge than understand.

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  12. Randwolf Ignorance killed the cat Valued Senior Member

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    Anywhere that I've lived for more than a year has "paths" worn in the carpet - I pace.

    Especially if I'm on the phone, doing business. If I couldn't pace (and smoke, alas) I would go absolutely nuts. (More so than than I already am

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    I have no doubt I would not have been able to complete many of my past accomplishments if I had been confined in a still position. This dates back to my school days - long, long before ADHD, etc. were recognized. I thank my teachers for being so tolerant, especially in the "dark ages" where such behavior merely marked you as deviant and incorrigible...
     
  13. CheskiChips Banned Banned

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    I didn't pass judgement at anyones parents. I have serious OCD, with great efforts I've nearly removed all of the compulsion out of my life. I did so without medication, without psychiatry...I did it with hard work. It's technically a "Chemical imbalance". I still don't believe that chemicals are the cause, I think they are the result of the behavior. Are sex addicts such because of an endorphin tolerance, or are they tolerant because they're sex addicts? Do I have OCD because I have abnormal serotonin levels or vice versa?

    You underestimate will-power. Completion of tedious tasks comes in tolerances, you build up your tolerance the same way you get acclimated to cold water. Slowly and progressively.
     
  14. Cath Registered Member

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    Both ADHD and OCD are caused by not enough serotonin levels, hence the reason why the medications for the conditions raise the serotonin levels and not vice versa.

    Well done for combating the OCD compulsions without medications but not everyone can do what you did. ADHD children cannot help the compulsions and will often act out to them. Are you saying that a 9 year old child with ADHD can learn to combat the compulsions? Because I don't think it's that simple
     
  15. shichimenshyo Caught in the machine Registered Senior Member

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    Ya, I had the unpleasant experience of having teachers that did not tolerate my fidgeting for the most part....that was until Ritalin, which made me feel how I imagine a anorexic super model would feel after coming down off a coke binge.
     
  16. John99 Banned Banned

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    I always concluded that what is normal for me is\may not be normal for other people.
     
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