The earth is flat!

Discussion in 'Earth Science' started by flameofanor5, Jan 6, 2010.

  1. flameofanor5 Not a cosmic killjoy Registered Senior Member

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  7. kurros Registered Senior Member

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    "The society also took the position that the Apollo Moon landings were a hoax, staged by Hollywood and based on a script by Arthur C. Clarke, a position also held by others not connected to the Flat Earth Society. On hearing this, Clarke sent a facetious letter to NASA's chief administrator:
    "Dear Sir, on checking my records, I see that I have never received payment for this work. Could you please look into this matter with some urgency? Otherwise you will be hearing from my solicitors, Messrs Geldsnatch, Geldsnatch and Blubberclutch". [9]"

    Haha, I love it.
     
  8. mananmater Registered Member

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    the earth isn't flat.
     
  9. Scaramouche Registered Member

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    I farking love the flat earth stuff. It's like Timecube.
     
  10. Andre.chaisson Registered Member

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    I know all you guys resist the "Flat Earth" stuff but I for one like to imagine a flat earth. Why you ask? Well I consider it abstract thought, its where new ideas come from.

    No I am not saying that the earth is flat in the victorian sense where you sail to the edge and fall off into space, NOT AT ALL. What I am saying that mathematically speaking a globe is in essense an expression of infinite 3 dimensional space in a 4 dimensional universe, much like a mobious strip is an expression of infinite 2D space in a 3D universe.

    I believe this 3 dimensional bias we all live with is hindering us from the revelation that our universe is shaped the same way. We all imagine it to be an endless 3d dimensional grid of cubes, basically in the cartesian coordinate system. Imagine for a second a Universe shaped like Lattitude/longitudinal system. See all those billions and billions of galaxies out there? Its nothing but an illusion.

    For arguements sake lets say that light by nature followed the curvature of the earth and that the earth was lets say, 1 light year in diameter. If I am standing in New York and you are in London, you have a lightsource in your hand, I will observe light coming from you, over the shortest distance, in a few months.

    However not long after I would observe light from slightly furthur away, that would seem to be coming from a different area of space. Hence the illusion, light from the same source follows a many different paths to the observer, who obseves there different ages and concludes that they are each unique.
     
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  11. Scaramouche Registered Member

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    Well, the surface of an unbroken sphere is actually an infinite plain. Not flat though. Unless you define flat as being curved below a certain degree of curvature.
     
  12. AlphaNumeric Fully ionized Registered Senior Member

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    Spheres have curvature, planes do not. You can measure curvature.
     
  13. Andre.chaisson Registered Member

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    Flat is merely an approximation. In essence the value of Pi is calculated by approximating a circle by an ever increasing amount of flat edges. When I say "flat" is is just a matter of perspective but more importantly, perception.
     
  14. Andre.chaisson Registered Member

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    Yea but you measure curvature based on our biased perception of what 'straight' is. I am not trying to convince anyone here, just trying to maybe get a few brains working 'outside the box' and yes that pun was intended.
     
  15. Scaramouche Registered Member

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    Hey, what? You can measure curvature? When the fuck did that happen? Wow!

    Anyway, as I said, a sphere is an endless plain. One mathematical model of this concept which you may know is the pseudosphere (or go the easy way and check out the 2-sphere).
     
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  16. Andre.chaisson Registered Member

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    Yes Scaramouche, that is the point I am trying to convey here. I will be honest and say that I have never heard of that particular mathematic model, it is intriguing nonetheless.

    Math was never my strong suit and after a quick read of an 'n-sphere' on wikipedia, I need to go get some tylenol.
     
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  17. Andre.chaisson Registered Member

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    LOL yea, I have to agree that the whole Apollo hoax theory was retarded from the start. I was glad to see that pictures of the lander as taken from earth began to surface.

    Besides that it is common knowledge that Apollo astronauts left surveying mirrors on the surface of the moon, which they have used since the early 70's to exactly measure the distance from the earth to the moon. Anyone who believed that this was a hoax, should hang there heads in shame.
     
  18. Scaramouche Registered Member

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    A regular sphere is sometimes called a 2-sphere, because it's a two dimensional plane wrapped around (or can be seen as such). I dunno if people want to count a pseudosphere as a sphere.
     

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