Americans, you're getting raped again

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  1. Varda The Bug Lady Valued Senior Member

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  3. kmguru Staff Member

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    So, what is the view of the Republicans?
     
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  5. Killjoy Propelling The Farce!! Valued Senior Member

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    Well - according to their 'spiritual leader' Mistah Limbaugh, it's a righteous stroke in support of the US constitution. A couple of the 'leading lights' of God's Own Party were also heard by your humble narrator on television news broadcasts opining that it was a thing well and good and in accordance with the rights expounded in the 1st amendment of the aforementioned document, and that they failed to see what harm could come of it.


    Yeah... ...no harm in letting deep pockets throw more money at the political process...

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  7. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    it basically shows clearly what some people have been saying for a while now. america is no longer a country for the people but on for the corporation.
     
  8. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    No need to over react... lol... not all Americans are gettin screwed... well... at leas not in the short term.!!!

    Anyhow... my advice for americans is... avoid bein in the lower middle-class... an it woud also be a good idea to be able to afford you'r own medical insurance an retirement costs... hmmm... i guess the botom line is... have plenty of money an you will be fine.!!!

    Thangs are lookin brite... my taxes are reletively low an will prolly stay reletively low... an my medical insurance premiums will be a little over 15.000 this year an no dout the Republican corporatons will work to keep those premums from goin much higher.!!!

    At leas this supreme court decision wont effect other countrys.!!!

    A-Man.TTT
     
  9. LostInThought7 Registered Senior Member

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    Jeez. I don't understand this at all. I'm definitely going to send some letters after I research this thoroughly, though, and find out what they were thinking.
     
  10. deicider got omnicidead Registered Senior Member

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    I wanna hear the exact chronology when america was for people and when exactly it turned to corporations.
     
  11. Pinwheel Banned Banned

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    About 1950.
     
  12. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Corporations are made of people, just like anything else; so why shouldn't people be allowed to contribute to their politicians?
     
  13. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    So than the people in the corporation should give the money and not the corporation. Though why I'm trying I don't know. your unabashedly pro corporation and would gladly give all your rights for their wants
     
  14. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    I'm not pro-corporation, I'm pro-individuals being able to contribute to whom they please.
     
  15. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    Good pont... corporatons ARE made up of people... an electons woud be made a lot mor simple an honest if we jus cut-out the middle-man (individuals) an let the corporatons voat in our elected officials.!!!
     
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  16. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    if your not pro corporation why do you promote ideas that would give corporations near limitless power and individuals with no recourse against them? You just said you think corporations should be allowed to contribute.
     
  17. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, because corporations are made up of people and it is only fair to give them a say; that is the beauty of democracy, after all! Ha, the irony of democracy.

    Anyway, sure corporations should be allowed to contribute. But, ask yourself this: do you really oppose corporate contributions in their own right, or do you oppose them in this case only because they are more likely to lean toward the right? Would you not support corporate 'contribution rights' if corporations were left-leaners?
     
  18. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    Irrelevent... corporatons are made up of people an have the best interest of people at hart... not profits.!!!
     
  19. superstring01 Moderator

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    This will require an amendment to the constitution. One I'd support.

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  20. deicider got omnicidead Registered Senior Member

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    So before the ww2 corporations was about people?
    Good to know

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  21. ogdred Registered Senior Member

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    Corporations have a legal obligation to their shareholders first and foremost--they are required, by law, to privilege profits. This is an important distinction: corporations are profit generating machines. They have a singular focus and that is it; they do not possess further interests, beliefs or ideologies. They're also (stating the obvious here) able to contribute disproportionately large sums to "their politicians", as compared to other citizens. Furthermore, the people that you speak of--those that comprise the corporation as a whole--are already free to make individual contributions.
     
  22. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Corporations are machinery. Giving them speech rights is like giving bulldozers travel rights - the same rights to use the public sidewalks and byways as a human being.

    A Constitutional amendment seems like a reasonable response. Better than waiting for the younger members of the Court to die.

    Some historical context, about what the people who wrote the Constitution and the Bill Of Rights thought about corporations and their "rights":

    http://www.reclaimdemocracy.org/corporate_accountability/history_corporations_us.html

     
  23. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    No it isn't fair because their not a citizen. if it were the people in the corporation no problem but the corporation has no right.

    No I do not beliwve in artificail construct should be involved in government.
     

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