Will Britannia lose the Falklands ?

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  1. Killjoy Propelling The Farce!! Valued Senior Member

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    It seems the sun may be setting on one of the last fragments of The Empire.

    Albion seems steadfast in its intent to retain control, though - and the newly discovered Black Gold is undoubtedly a powerful incentive to do so...

     
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  3. draqon Banned Banned

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    I really hope it will go to the rightful owner, Argentina.
     
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  5. superstring01 Moderator

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    How so?

    Ownership is defined by the natives. The Falklands have to aboriginal people, only European colonists, all of whom are British and want--very much--to remain so.

    So, if you could kindly support this statement with something other than fluff, please do so, or leave.

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  7. draqon Banned Banned

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    just look at geography, its right next to Argentine. And look how far away it is from Britain. It's like taking an island near Britain and claiming it under jurisdiction by Argentine. Pathetic. So what that it was not inhabited, a culture so far away close to another culture under its nose can't just claim it and say its theirs.

    I full support Argentine.
     
  8. superstring01 Moderator

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    So. . . in other words, you support Argentina 'cause the islands are just too gosh-darned far from Britain and because you just don't like Britain.

    Interesting.

    Then Vladivostok should spin off from Moscow, because they are so far apart.

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  10. draqon Banned Banned

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    Vladivostok is in country of Russia.
    Falkland islands are not in UK, nor are they anywhere close to country UK.
     
  11. Killjoy Propelling The Farce!! Valued Senior Member

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    So Russia should also do the right thing and give the Kuril Islands back to Japan, because they are closer to Japan, and were Japanese for forever and a day before Uncle Joe took a shine to 'em, right...?


    The French would seem to have more claim to the Falklands than the Argies. They were the first to set up shop there -
     
  12. superstring01 Moderator

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    But. . . um. . . the islands LEGALLY belong to the UK because the POPULATION of the islands wish to remain British subjects. Water has no bearing on territory rights.

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    so if bunch of aliens from Proxima Centauri will land right in the middle of the Pennsylvania amish forests and will establish a base there, its theirs forever? :bugeye: Its Earth man, it belongs to people. Its Falkland islands, they belong to Argentina.
     
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    Draq, seriously, how can anybody respect you with this kind of logic?

    Pennsylvania has PEOPLE LIVING THERE who are Americans/Earthlings. The Falklands have NO ARGENTINE CITIZENS. They never have. They DO have British citizens and have had them for over a century. Get it? Or is that too difficult for you to wrap your limited mind around?

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  15. countezero Registered Senior Member

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    This thread is just an excuse for people to give voice to their anti-imperialistic feelings, however misplaced and far-fetched.
     
  16. Pinwheel Banned Banned

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    Rule Britannia.
     
  17. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    the Falklands are far enough off the coast to be outside of Argentina's territorial waters aren't they? The only way Argentina could stake any sort of claim is if they were inside those waters right?




    the dick waving has gone on for 177 years I really don't think its going to stop.
     
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  18. superstring01 Moderator

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    A good question.

    "Territorial Waters" don't really cut it either. Even if the Falklands were 7 miles off the coast of Argentina, the "territorial waters" would start at exactly the halfway point. Since they are many hundreds of miles off the coast, they really aren't in anybody's waters, but Britians.

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  19. EmmZ It's an animal thing Registered Senior Member

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    The problem isn't who owns it, the problem is ownership and ursury.
     
  20. superstring01 Moderator

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    How so?

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  21. EmmZ It's an animal thing Registered Senior Member

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    It doesn't matter who lives there, the issue seems to be who owns the land. Is this not how wars continue to perpetuate, through this continual ideal that we "own" land, and then charge people an extortionate amount of money to live on it, via tax and usury?

    I am not saying we should GIVE the island to whomever wants it and stop holding so tightly to this idea that we own things. Actually, yes I am.
     
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    Actually, the issue of ownership is decided, at least in part, by what the current inhabitants want. This is especially true if there are no displaced peoples wanting to return to the place. Since the Falklands have no aboriginals (never have) and have only British subjects who want to remain part of Britain, that is first and foremost in deciding where the islands go. After that, there are issues of historic claims and "current governance" (as in: who owns it now?). In the case of the Falklands: Spain, France, Argentina and Great Britain all have historic claims, that are all equally debatable. But nobody has the "current governance" claim but Britain. This fact, taken along with the fact that there are British subjects living there tend to paint a pretty clear picture: the Islands are rightfully--and legally--British.

    Everything else is just opinion.

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  23. EmmZ It's an animal thing Registered Senior Member

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    I, me, mine.
     
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