The brilliant madness

Many great men and woman had to live with this at times appalling mental disorder, I prefer to call is manic depression rather than the milder term bipolar disorder

Below is a list of remarkable people who suffered from manic depression


Famous People With Bipolar Disorder
There are many famous people that have/had bipolar/manic depression. These people were very talented, and live/lived very productive lives. Many of these people contributed so much to society that there is no doubt in my mind that without them the world would not be the same place. All these people have one thing in common and that is they all suffer from bipolar disorder.

It is said that there is a link between bipolar disorder and creativity, and after realizing that most people who are geniuses or are very creative have some type of mental illness, that statement is proven very accurate. Here is a list that I have put together, I'm sorry if I missed. It's hard to keep a complete list. If you know of anymore that aren't on my list, feel free to let me know, and I'll add them.
• Kurt Cobain- composer (Nirvana)
• Jimi Hendrex- musician
• Axl Rose- musician (Guns 'n Roses)
• Marvin Lee Aday- musician, actor (Meat Loaf)
• Buzz Aldrin- astronaut
• Hans Christian Anderson- writer
• Louie Anderson- comedian, actor
• Fiona Apple- musician
• Roseanne Barr- comedian, actress
• Ned Beatty- actor
• Ludwig Van Beethoven- composer
• Arthur Benson- writer
• William Blake- poet
• Napoleon Bonaparte- general
• Robert Boorstin- writer, assistant to President Clinton
• Marlon Brando- actor
• Tim Burton- artist, movie director
• Drew Carey- comedian, actor
• Jim Carey- actor
• Winston Churchill- British Prime Minister
• John Clare- poet
• Dick Clark- TV. personality
• Paula Cole- musician
• Calvin Coolidge- U.S. President
• Sheryl Crow- musician
• John Daly- athlete (golf)
• Rodney Dangerfield- comedian, actor
• John Davidson- poet
• Ellen DeGeneres- comedian, actress
• John Denver- musician
• Charles Dickens- writer
• Emily Dickens- poet
• Patty Duke- actress, writer
• T.S. Elliot- poet
• Carrie Fisher- writer, actress
• Robert Frost- poet
• Sigmund Freud- physician
• Judy Garland- singer, actress
• Phil Graham- owner of Washington post
• Ernest Hemingway- writer
• Kay Redfield Jamison- psychologist, writer
• Billy Joel- musician
• Elton John- musician
• Janis Joplin- musician
• John Lennon- musician (Beatles)
• Abraham Lincoln- U.S. President
• Jack London- writer
• Courtney Love- musician (Hole)
• Robert Cowell- peot
• Michelangelo- artist
• Marilyn Monroe- actress
• Adolpne Monticelli- artist
• Alanis Morissette- musician
• Mozart- composer
• Isaac Newton- scientist
• Sinead O' Conner- musician
• Ozzy Ozbourne- musician
• Edgar Allen Poe- poet
• Joan Rivers- actress, TV. personality
• Gordon Sumner- musician, composer (Sting)
• Mark Twain- writer/author
• Vincent Van Gogh- artist
• Walt Whitman- poet

excerpt of my struggle with manic depression

Please note that what I am describing is not the mild beneficial hypo-mania of high performing persons of history who also had this disorder. This mild form of mania existed in a large number of great and creative persons. It was there that one saw the enormous energy of Winston Churchill , Ludwig Van Beethoven, William Blake, Napoleon Bonaparte,, Charles Dickens, T.S. Elliot, Robert Frost, Sigmund Freud, Ernest Hemingway, Abraham Lincoln, Jack London, Robert Cow ell, Michelangelo,, Mozart, Isaac Newton, Edgar Allen Poe, Mark Twain, Vincent Van Gogh, King David, King Saul. To name a very few of the countless great personalities that suffered in different degrees from a milder form of this disorder.

I become delusional, begin to hallucinate, sometimes-beautiful visions of other worlds, universes, heaven and see and perceive colors that do not exist on this earth. I feel I was in constant communication every being in existence as I was truly God incarnate. I was convinced I was god. I feel that I am the incarnation of the sublime, wanting to remain in this state forever.

I continue to have vivid visions and dreams, so real that I still do not know if I was communicating with some higher intelligence. I can see the future flashing before my eyes in rapid non-stop visions. My eyes dart back and forth, back and forth, become red, and inflamed and terrifying to look into. I am in another reality beyond space and time an alarming altered state of consciousness. No loner feeling glorious,

I am becoming more and scared, terrified of this uncontrollable state and everything starts to go out of control. My body begins to die from the unrelenting drain off energy on it by this completely abnormal state of affairs. I became paranoid fearful, horrified, terrified desperate to escape the horror that has become my tormented mind. Is there a hell? Yes! I have experienced it already on this earth.

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I already am getting help for my "disorder" and perhaps you might want to as well. The choice is yours, but do seek professional help from a few sources before you make up your mind as to what you should or should not do.

 

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Thanks so much, but I am now well controlled and have been balanced for many years

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Not sure if all these had manic depression, but all had mental problems

Dr Johnson.
John Donne.
Samuel Taylor Coleridge.
Sylvia Plath.
Elizabeth Jennings.
Virginia Woolf.
William Cowper
Mary Lamb
John Clare

 

Picking one old friend from many....
hey, let's not diagnose people from the past, for example. It's not very scientific, first. Second, it is so contextless. As if behavior and emotions have little to do with what is going on around the person.

 

Why not make a list of those with no "mental disorder"?
That list should be much shorter and much more manageable! :bugeye:

 

I think this is just a proof that even people with disorders able to become famous.

 

Yes, that was my impression. If they can, so can I. This is not something to be ashamed of. Etc. And that's all fine and good.

I just find it distateful when people are diagnosed in absentia. It's poor science. Worse, it's really kind of rude. And it reduces complicated phenomena we really cannot be sure of to a label. It also fits nicely with all the myths the pharmaceutical companies are making money off of. For example the myth that if you are in some emotional pain you probably have a disorder and are in need of medication. It will not be long before every human fits some DSM category. In fact we probably all do already, but fortunately psychiatrists do not have the equivalent of no knock search warrents.

 

That could be true.
It could just be statistics.
But how many countries without a clear path of succession or a democratic system that works, end up with nutters at the helm?
More than statistics would predict, I think.

 

Bipolar mood disorder has become the illness of choice with nearly every second movie star coming on shows like that of Oprah Winfrey stating that they are suffering from this disorder.

Just by listening I know they are not manic depressives but creative people whose mood swings are a little more pronounced than that of the general population

People are being too quickly medicated in this day and age and in the process have a lot of their creativity removed in the process.

It was the enormous energy that a man like Winston Churchill used in the mild manic state that enabled him to drive the British war effort in WW2

 

http://www.mental-health-today.com/bp/famous_people.htm

Famous People with Bipolar Disorder

Much of this list was obtained from the Internet.
Actors & Actresses
Ned Beatty
Maurice Bernard, soap opera
Jeremy Brett
Jim Carey
Lisa Nicole Carson
Rosemary Clooney, singer
Lindsay Crosby
Eric Douglas
Robert Downey Jr.
Patty Duke
Carrie Fisher
Connie Francis, singer and actress
Shecky Greene, comedian
Linda Hamilton
Moss Hart, actor, director, playright
Mariette Hartley
Margot Kidder
Vivien Leigh
Kevin McDonald, comedian
Kristy McNichols
Burgess Meredith, actor, director
Spike Milligan, actor, writer
Spike Mulligan, comic actor and writer
Nicola Pagett
Ben Stiller, actor, director, writer
David Strickland
Lili Taylor
Tracy Ullman
Jean-Claude Van Damme
Robin Williams
Jonathon Winters, comedian
Artists
Alvin Alley, dancer, choreogapher
Ludwig Von Beethoven
Tim Burton, artist, director
Francis Ford Coppola, director
George Fredrick Handel, composer
Bill Lichtenstein, producer
Joshua Logan, broadway director, producer
Vincent Van Gogh, painter
Gustav Mahier, composer
Francesco Scavullo, artist, photographer
Robert Schumann, composer
Don Simpson, movie producer
Norman Wexler, screenwriter, playwright
Entrepreneurs
Robert Campeau
Pierre Peladeau
Heinz C. Prechter
Ted Turner, media giant
Financiers
John Mulheren
Murray Pezim
Miscellaneous
Buzz Aldrin, astronaut
Clifford Beers, humanitarian
Garnet Coleman, legislator (Texas)
Larry Flynt, publisher and activist
Kit Gingrich, Newt's mom
Phil Graham, owner of Washington Post
Peter Gregg, team owner and manager, race car driver
Susan Panico (Susan Dime-Meenan), business executive
Sol Wachtier, former New York State Chief Judge
Musicians
Ludwig van Beethoven, composer
Alohe Jean Burke, musician, vocalist
Rosemary Clooney, singer
DMX Earl Simmons, rapper and actor
Ray Davies
Lenny Dee
Gaetano Donizetti, opera singer
Peter Gabriel
Jimi Hendrix
Kristen Hersh (Throwing Muses)
Phyllis Hyman
Jack Irons
Daniel Johnston
Otto Klemperer, musician, conductor
Oscar Levant, pianist, composer, television
Phil Ochs, musician, political activist, poet
John Ogden, composer, musician
Jaco Pastorius
Charley Pride
Mac Rebennack (Dr. John)
Jeannie C. Riley
Alys Robi, vocalist in Canada
Axl Rose
Nick Traina
Del Shannon
Phil Spector, musician and producer
Sting, Gordon Sumner, musician, composer
Tom Waits, musician, composer
Brian Wilson, musician, composer, arranger
Townes Van Zandt, musician, composer
Poets
John Berryman
C.E. Chaffin, writer, poet
Hart Crane
Randall Jarrell
Jane Kenyon
Robert Lowell
Sylvia Plath
Robert Schumann
Delmore Schwartz
Political
Robert Boorstin, special assistant to President Clinton
L. Brent Bozell, political scientist, attorney, writer
Bob Bullock, ex secretary of state, state comptroller and lieutenant governer
Winston Churchill
Kitty Dukasis, former First Lady of Massachusetts
Thomas Eagleton, lawyer, former U.S. Senator
Lynne Rivers, U.S. Congress
Theodore Roosevelt, President of the United States
Scholars
John Strugnell, biblical scholar
Scientists
Karl Paul Link, chemist
Dimitri Mihalas
Sports
Shelley Beattie, bodybuilding, sailing
John Daly, golf
Muffin Spencer-Devlin, pro golf
Ilie Nastase, tennis
Jimmy Piersail, baseball player, Boston Red Sox, sports announcer
Barret Robbins, football
Wyatt Sexton, football
Alonzo Spellman, football
Darryl Strawberry, baseball
Dimitrius Underwood, football
Luther Wright, basketball
Bert Yancey, athlete
TV & Radio
Dick Cavett
Jay Marvin, radio, writer
Jane Pauley
Writers
Louis Althusser, philosopher, writer
Honors de Balzac
Art Buchwald, writer, humorist
Neal Cassady
Patricia Cornwell
Margot Early
Kaye Gibbons
Johann Goethe
Graham Greene
Abbie Hoffman, writer, political activist
Kay Redfield Jamison, writer, psychologist
Peter Nolan Lawrence
Frances Lear, writer, editor, women's rights activist
Rika Lesser, writer, translator
Kate Millet
Robert Munsch
Margo Orum
Edgar Allen Poe
Theodore Roethke
Lori Schiller, writer, educator
Frances Sherwood
Scott Simmie, writer, journalist
August Strindberg
Mark Twain
Joseph Vasquez, writer, movie director
Mark Vonnegut, doctor, writer
Sol Wachtler, writer, judge
Mary Jane Ward
Virginia Woolf

 

I don't mean to discount these exhaustive lists, but part of me wonders if these bouts of depression experienced by these celebrities are due to no longer being in quite the same limelight as when they were "big" or in the mainstream?

My own grandmother was bipolar / manic depressive and a raging bitch at the best of times (rest her soul). And she was no celebrity, which is why I don't think it's bunk science (I know, excellent use of the scientific method, genius).

But there's a lot of a "no one gets me" when these people are off by themselves, which may or may not be true. Perhaps we're all like that to some extent, so we're all manic depressives all throughout our lives.

 

ah...so basically everyone is bipolar and especially pepole who are known to exist and also t.v and radio.

 

Real prolems come in when the subject has multiple personalities. I have four.

Edit: or none, depending on who you talk to...just kidding. *wink*

 

Seek professional help and stop posting garbage here. Thanks.

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You really love me is a strange way but I hate and despise you from the core of my inner most being. Damn it why the hell do you follow me around like some love sick little girl

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Ask your parents to respect you as a grown up person

 

Yes, I know. You did so long before you even came here. It is the psychosis and indoctrination of your belief system that taught you to hate me. It is the overwhelmingly massive difference between us. I don't hate anyone. I despise the ideologies that have been perpetrated for centuries upon mankind, which you are clearly demonstrating the results here, your hatred for me.

I want to save mankind while you want to destroy it.

But, as others have pointed out, I'm the big bad guy here.

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You want to save humanity ? Are you some sort of a demigod?

 

i'm crazy and i'm a genius.

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No, just someone who wants to try to save humanity from the insane beliefs of the indoctrinated. I know you don't get that.