What are the questions science cannot answer?

Discussion in 'Science & Society' started by Mind Over Matter, Aug 27, 2010.

  1. IamJoseph Banned Banned

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    You are stealing my question! I offered this crowd that Creationism rests on a 100% scientific premise of 'cause and effect', but everyone screamed RELIGIOUS MYTH! They didn't even say which part is myth.

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  3. Neverfly Banned Banned

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    That may be because the "Cause" being supernatural, divine, unfalsifiable and unprovable wasn't scientific, bonehead.
     
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  5. Neverfly Banned Banned

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    Person 1: "How did this happen?"
    Person 2:"GODDIDIT!"
    Person 2: "Golly gee whiz, I shore am scientifical!"
    Person 1: [facepalm]

    Only someone as special as you, IamJoseph, could think that was scientific.
     
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  7. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    * * * * NOTE FROM A MODERATOR * * * *

    Joseph, you seem to have responded to everyone's post except mine.

    I'm sure this is just another example of your disingenuousness, but I'll assume you somehow happened to miss it. So let me repeat myself:

    You have now been informed that:
    • Spoken language is at least 15,000 years old.
    • The hippopotamus is an artiodactyl like pigs and cows, and it does not chew its cud.
    If you repeat your lies on either of these issues again, ANYWHERE, that will be intellectual dishonesty, the worst possible offense on SciForums. You will be banned.
     
  8. NMSquirrel OCD ADHD THC IMO UR12 Valued Senior Member

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    you are putting your words in my mouth...
    and value is assigned by the reader..
    what is your point here? or were you just trying to drop your opinion in?
    this sounds like someone elses words..
    actually i was reffering to you,,i see an intelligence in your posts so i argue with you..tried to teach you a little consideration/common sense..
     
  9. NMSquirrel OCD ADHD THC IMO UR12 Valued Senior Member

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    wow..don't piss off the moderator.
     
  10. Green Destiny Banned Banned

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    It's like gazing in awe at fireworks.
     
  11. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    I have a very high tolerance threshold. It's a requirement for this job, on a website where most of the members aren't adults. I just roll my eyes at the name-calling and other stooopid stuff that bugs some of the other Moderators.

    I've only banned one member, but I suppose I would be doing Joseph a favor by reminding everyone who it was: Anita Meyer. She was mature, she was polite, she was articulate, she was even fairly well educated. Her problem was that she just would not stop TROLLING HOGWASH. Even after she was called on it, and her argument was refuted into dust, she would just wait a few months, hoping we all forgot, and come right back and start trolling the same hogwash.

    I tolerate people acting immature and foolish. After all we come here for fun, not just to be enlightened. Even scientists get to take off their lab coats sometimes and throw erasers at each other. What I do not tolerate is people making a mockery of science. It is not okay to use this website as a platform for indoctrinating all of our young members into believing poppycock! That's what Anita was doing and that's what Joseph is doing. If Joseph becomes my second ban-casualty, he can't say that he wasn't warned. My poppycock threshold is extremely low.

    This isn't my board and I'm not supposed to exercise any authority here, but believe me, I will make an exception and suffer the consequences, for the sake of the integrity of SciForums. Besides, I am the Linguistics Moderator, and one of Joseph's most idiotic assertions is that language is only 6,000 years old. I will presume authority over any linguistic hogwash, regardless of where it's posted!

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  12. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    The part about the Big Magician In The Sky.
     
  13. Mystical Sadhu Registered Member

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    It may be difficult to measure which is most influential or believed, over a long period or within an era. And in estimating which is which and what, we must also consider our own homogenistic purview as inflicting biases that may not be accurate either.

    There are many sources of influence by actual people who lived, yet the myopia -- whether intentional, by anyone, or not -- insulates people from knowing both facts and truths as to the reality that has been, and continues to be lived by real people.

    Also, some traditions have been oral, as were those that are in print today.


     
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  14. Skeptical Registered Senior Member

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    On the question of how you would explain origins to a primitive society 3,000 years ago, assuming you had the proper scientific facts at your disposal.

    Easy.

    "At the very beginning, there was a great flash of light, and it was hot beyond imagining. And the first things to appear were stars, brighter than anything that can be seen today. After two generations of stars were born, and died, came that which we see in the sky at night today, so far away that they appear simply as point of light. Our sun is a star. And close to the sun the world came into existence, to move around the sun thereafter. When another world and our world collided, the moon was formed. The world was hot and nasty, but slowly cooled. When it was cool, the first living things appeared. They were very, very small. As time passed, the first life changed slowly into new forms, and some of the new ones were much larger. Eventually, all the living things we know today came into being. And towards the last of them, came man and woman."

    Now if Genesis were to say that, I would be most impressed. Sadly, it does not. Instead, we see a primitive creation story with no scientific merit.
     
  15. IamJoseph Banned Banned

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    I like your red type, it makes your warning even more warningful.

    What I say and maintain, there is no NAME older than 5770 available to prove speech - one of the greatest anomalies for those pushing speech. Please retract in red type also - otherwise I will complain to you.


    I have never said lies thus how can I repeat it. In fact on some 20 occassions no one has retracted their own negations despite not having any evidences to back it up: "THERE IS NO ONE IN THE UNIVERSE" and "I TOLD YOU SO" does not apply. Colorful tirades are also not responses. You would be better to attend to those who flood your message banks and check their previous responses - otherwise you will end up with only those who are wearing the same color ties.

    Of note also, there are pages and pages of false historical statements in other threads - and not a whimper from anyone - not even in bold red type warnings from your good self. Those who fail in history are most probably lousy in science too. You also failed to caution a poster who falsely presented a non-alphabetical, non-book as a counter to an alphabetical book, and repeats his "I TOLD YOU SO" jargon!

    I will respond re cows - just to embarrass you. Re the pig: who presented any evidence of another animal boasting both a split hoof and one which chews the cow - which post - by whom? - you never said: I challenge you to do so now.

    Obviously, this forum is in balistic shock someone is taking them on with a different views. This is rampant in a host of institutions today!
     
  16. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    What caused God?
     
  17. IamJoseph Banned Banned

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    It does say that. I will explain this in the text - after I recieve some responses from the monitor what I challenged him. Why should I educate for nothing!
     
  18. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    first off I have read genisis it doesn't say anything of the sort and their are moderators on this site not monitors. why you thiunk this site is moderated by lizards is anyone's best guess but I assure you its not. lizards aren't very good typers
     
  19. IamJoseph Banned Banned

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    It does - I will respond to this new one when I get a response from Monitor in Red. You are hardly a credible explainer of a book you call distored but never show where! For you, the same source also says there was a temple in Jerusalem - and the Christians laugh when you leave the room. And no monitors question those who deny this.

    No history - no science - both of these are equal faculties which determine credibility.
     
  20. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    No it doesn't
    what lizard in red?

    Yes no history no science pretty much sums you up
     
  21. Skeptical Registered Senior Member

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  22. IamJoseph Banned Banned

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    You looked - and you never found - this:

    "At the very beginning, there was a great flash of light?

    What, according to your reading, was the first thing in Genesis?

    But you are wrong even there. Before the great flash of light there has to be something else which must happen first, from a scientific POV. Guess what, Mr. Brainiac who cannot even read his own first statement?
     
  23. Skeptical Registered Senior Member

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    Joe

    The very first thing the bible say is : In the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth.

    In the light of what we now know from good science, that is a seriously inaccurate statement. Even leaving out the potential argument about the word 'God' and 'created'.

    Correct is " In the beginning came the Big Bang. And reality consisted of a quark/gluon plasma. After a time, there were photons, and sub atomic particles, which eventually reverted to hot hydrogen gas. Only after 10 million years did the first stars appear."

    The 'beginning' was 13.7 billion years ago. The Earth did not condense out of gas and dust until 4.7 billion years ago.

    Thus, in the beginning neither the heavens (stars) or the Earth were created.
     

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