Israel Spreads New SuperVirus Worldwide

Discussion in 'World Events' started by common_sense_seeker, Oct 1, 2010.

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Is This Legitimate In Defending The Holy Land From Iranian technology?

  1. yes - if you think like a zionist

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  2. no - the virus infects worldwide and acquires piggyback viruses

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  3. don't know - I'm too scared or too confused to vote yes or no.

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  1. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    I'm sorry, but there is no physical proof that Israel did this.

    Secondly, it's not a virus but a worm, big difference.

    Thirdly, its not "super" its a worm, that is all.

    By saying it's worldwide it implies that it hurts everyone. Not true, it only targets very specific targets and those have all been in Iran.
     
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  3. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    Like you would know

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    You don't know, starting with the fact that you think it is a virus. It is a computer worm, end of story.
     
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  5. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    I've googled it a dozen times and I've been a-okay.

    Your just a technological sucker. A person that doesn't know anything about the subject and is easily susceptible to that paranoia.
     
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  7. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    How would you know are you stalking me?

    worms can spread so can trojans.


    also the difference between a virus and a worm is actually completely irrelevant to the topic at hand and the difference is actual slight. thirdly the term virus can be used as a catch all phrase to refer to all malicious computer programs.
     
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  8. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    The difference is incredibly large. For starters a virus has to come attached to a file, a worm does not. A worm can also self replicate itself, and a worm is often more sophisticated.

    "Worms can spread" yah, congragulations pjdude, you just said the most simple minded fact about malware. Kudoos to you, at least you know one of the basics.

    And no viruses cannot be used for all phrases. That right is reserved to the term "malware"
     
  9. Chipz Banned Banned

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    IamJoseph, I went to Yeshiva for a large part of my life...you're some shmo who didn't.

    Bereishit 12:7, וַיֵּרָא יְהוָה, אֶל-אַבְרָם, וַיֹּאמֶר, לְזַרְעֲךָ אֶתֵּן אֶת-הָאָרֶץ הַזֹּאת; וַיִּבֶן שָׁם מִזְבֵּחַ, לַיהוָה
    הַנִּרְאֶה אֵלָי

    So I "loose"?
     
  10. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    Not really the difference is almost entirely in technical aspects of creation and the intial infection. for what matters for the topic at hand there are no meaningful differences.

    good jon you moved several more steps up the concending asshole ladder

    the term virus is routinely used by lay people to refer to all maleware. Your infantile whining about how the proper technical jargon wasn't used doesn't intelligent, knowledgeable or an expert it just makes you like a concending asshole. You know these differences don't matter in regards to the topic at hand you just want to show off and grandstand
     
  11. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    There are tremendous differences you twit. A virus piggybacks a piece of software like a download. A worm is sophisticated enough to force it's own way in.

    The way this worm was spread was through USB sticks, not by the open web. That could not be done by a virus, that is why one reason why this worm is so sophisticated.

    Also, viruses do not use zero day attacks, worms can, this worm uses four which is a very large amount for a worm.

    You deserve it.

    Lay people are wrong. A virus and a worm operate very differentely. They are fundamentally coded differentely.

    It makes me more knowledgeable than you in this subject which is all that matters.

    A virus is not a worm, even a total newcomer to the field of hacking knows that. And I do happen to know something about hacking. Give me 45 minutes in the physical presence of ANY desktop computer that runs linux, ubuntu, or windows and I will have cracked into it like a nutshell without breaking a sweat.

    It doesn't matter what kind of antivirus or security software you have, if I can get in the physical presence of it I can hack it, and it is pretty easy too.

    There is a massive difference between a worm and a virus, don't delude yourself otherwise.
     
  12. IamJoseph Banned Banned

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    Yes, you loose - the actual text supercedes all later contradictions. It is legitimate to say Hebron is the birthplace [aligns most with place of birth] of Judaism because it has the physcial reality of land, as opposed any spiritual embellishments. Usually, a burial place is also identified with one's birthplace, unless some other factors make this not possible - and all of Judaism's primal ancesters are buried in Hebron. This is certainly not the birthplace of Islam or Arabs, despite their signs here of DOGS AND JEWS FORBIDDEN.

    No such thing as sacred Islamic soil based on robbery and denial.
     
  13. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    Says the arrogant prick derailing the thread



    which is all nice and dandy but your entire infantile rant about jargon is irrelevant so grow up and let the topic get back to where it should be the effect and fallout and not the technical aspects and jargon you niwit. I get the feeling your trying to derail the topic so Israel involvement won't be discussed.
     
  14. Chipz Banned Banned

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    Okay Joseph...when you make up arbitrary criterion for what constitutes "a land" or ancestral home place don't expect everyone else to subscribe to it. Your arrogance is what bothers me most. If you would have been kinder I would have given you several Tanakh, Talmudic, and Zoharic citations which believe the Hevron to be one of the Jewish holy cities. Though - if you had even a basic understanding of Halakha or Judaic Exegesis you would know that there is no concept of "superseding principals". If there was, the Talmud would be unnecessary and the Mishna would suffice.

    Since you haven't picked up on it, I studied at Haredi Yeshivot for a period in my life and though I never made shaas - I did put a sizable dent in it. I also technically have dual citizenship, but I don't really want to join the IDF right now.

    I am what you call Masorti. Still you continue to attack me as if I am an anti-Semite opposing the Jews with an iron fist...all because my variation of Zionism (You know...the moderate kind typical of Israeli's) is not your type (American extremist Zionist).
     
  15. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    I'd hardly call the Israeli version of zionism moderate both are extreme
     
  16. Chipz Banned Banned

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    Zionism within Israel is much different than America, it's far more moderate. No one knows about it because it's not "News worthy". No one in the news reports "Today, 4 million people were moderate and compromising". The result is that everyone seems so polarized and extreme.
     
  17. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    Zionism is extreme there is nothing moderate about thinking and demanding other people's properties and rights. Israel has never made a compromise it just offers demands.
     
  18. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Chipz:

    What's up?
     
  19. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    Really? That is bullsh*t and if your that stupid to think that without checking it out first I dont even want to waste my time on such a worthless opinion.

    Youve got to admit though pj, moderate people never get news time anymore, its always the extreme people that get the news time
     
  20. Alien Cockroach Banned Banned

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    From CNet, by Elinor Mills:

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20018530-245.html
     
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  21. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    There is no evidence that Israel was behind this malware. However there are a couple of hints that point in a particular direction. As in detective work, one also has to factor in motive and capability. Thus the finger pointing.
    Most importantly, this note:
    That is the crux, there are way too many potential origins for this malware to point the finger with any certainty. From a bored hacker in St Petersburg, to a disgruntled Siemens employee, to perhaps rabid Environmentalists.

    Symantec`s lengthy and detailed dossier on Stuxnet.
     

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