Please help me understand the expansion of space

Discussion in 'Astronomy, Exobiology, & Cosmology' started by markl323, Jan 14, 2011.

  1. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    Silly lady likes to post nonsense, and doesn't read very well.

    He's not talking about the mass of the galaxy, he's talking about the central bulge.
     
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  3. Lady Historica Banned Banned

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    You have been given the correct ratio of mass to define a galaxy by its central bulge and a simple equation that shows the direct relationship between light and expansion. Silly boy. That's ok I think it's kinda cute you like to reinstate what goes over your head.
     
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  5. Darius Macab Registered Senior Member

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    read my post stupid

    for that matter read the topic

    there isnt anything about the expansion of the universe on that site or in your post, so stop trolling and go away.

    brilliant *claps slowly*

    right by virtue of math that no one else can understand

    If you would stop sprouting nonsense for a second and, oh i dont know, Actually Read the Topic you would find that we are talking about the expansion of the universe which has nothing to do with how big the black hole at the center of the galaxy is.

    please leave until you have something of relevance to contribute

    thats just flaming plain and simple

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  7. Lady Historica Banned Banned

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    Oh!!! My bad. please forgive me of being completely ignorant about the interconnectedness of the universe and giving an equation that models the rate of expansion our universe is currently undergoing based on its current size...

    alright smarty pants. The equation shows how close to pi your current calculations that all of humanity has made up until this very present moment of realization in number theory.

    1-(.49/1.56)= 1-(.31410256)

    Amazing. Random junk that shows up as pi only for the ratio known to be of a black holes mass. Coincidence I think not.
     
  8. Darius Macab Registered Senior Member

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    What the fuck are you talking about?

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  9. Lady Historica Banned Banned

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    If the shoe fits wear it. If your confused either stay that way or attempt to elaborate your concerns in a legible manner. Asking what I'm talking about and providing no words for me to pull from to help you understand "how" space expands does not help the probability of me saying something that falls in line with your individual train of logical connections to certain things that are only explicable in numbers. But if you would like to add sustenance to your posts maybe just maybe I can find the switch that is broken...
     
  10. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Er, if he feeds his posts you'll look for a switch? :shrug:
     
  11. Darius Macab Registered Senior Member

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    NO

    it is your responsibility to expand on your own points, the burden of proof is upon you and if you cannot make your own posts legible thats your own damn fault

    but since you asked, i will obliged this one time

    you have said nothing about the universe only about the galaxies therin and as anyone can tell you, it is not the galaxies that are expanding but the distance between them

    i went through that on my first or second post

    so that paragraph is bullshit....

    amazing, i never knew how interrelated pi and the expansion of the universe was

    fistly: i never made any calculations

    secondly: what does number theory have to do with this

    you never said anything about pi before this post, please elaborate

    oh and tell us how black holes are related to the redshift of almost every galaxy

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  12. Darius Macab Registered Senior Member

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    thanks, i loled

    just the thing i needed
     
  13. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    That's all right. You could remedy your complete ignorance by actually studying the subject.

    I know that won't happen, but hey, you can get by without knowing anything. Just don't pretend otherwise.
     
  14. Lady Historica Banned Banned

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    Critics.... poorest users of words. What "burden" of proof? I don't have to prove anything to individuals who can't figure things out for themselves. I don't have the capacity for the yes\no semantics followed by "your Burden" and gross misunderstanding of the socratic method. If someone tells you here elaborate just a bit and hopefully i'll help you connect my thoughts to how you think. You don't discard their reasoning unless you are A- egotistical or B- a troll bent on destroying thought's of people you don't agree with.

    In fact I don't believe this thread can be explained without begging the question? is the universe expanding. Let's say everything exploded as its largest and most natural energy at every point in space and was actually shrinking. And as the energy known as the "universe" shrinks it clumps together in anomalies known as mass. Is it correct probably not. Could you prove to me it is not correct? Your welcome to try and fail.

    pffft... "Redshifts are attributable to the Doppler effect, familiar in the changes in the apparent pitches of sirens and frequency of the sound waves emitted by speeding vehicles; an observed redshift due to the Doppler effect occurs whenever a light source moves away from an observer. Cosmological redshift is seen due to the expansion of the universe,"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redshift

    So what blue shift means its shrinking? doubt highly that type of thinking is right or bound to go anywhere...
     
  15. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    To paraphrase a classic Frank Sinatra tune, "That's Why The Lady Is A Crank".
     
  16. Lady Historica Banned Banned

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    To paraphrase Montgomery Gentry. "You do your thing I'll do mine". Your first post sounded cute but now I'm bored...
     
  17. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    I'm cut to the quick... does that mean no :shake: ?
     
  18. Lady Historica Banned Banned

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    Ugh.... Men!!!! Keep trying sweetheart.

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  19. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    What a coincidence. That's how I feel about your posts.
     
  20. Lady Historica Banned Banned

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    Why? Cause your head doesn't work like a graphing calculator and you don't understand how resonance fits into the natural world... Brush up on your Einstein deer then come talk to me. Seriously how rude. I can tell by your line quote exactly what your problem is Alex.

    What you avoid by excluding the liar is not so much being defrauded as it is being harmed by means of fraud. Thus, even at this stage, what they hate is basically not deception itself, but rather the unpleasant, hated consequences of certain sorts of deception. It is in a similarly restricted sense that man now wants nothing but truth: he desires the pleasant, life-preserving consequences of truth.
     
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  21. Darius Macab Registered Senior Member

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    aw shoot, double post

    sorry
     
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  22. Darius Macab Registered Senior Member

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    you have the burden to prove your statements, not just throw a crapload of equations at us and say "here this means im right"

    you have to show us, not tell us.

    secondly, how about you stop whining and answer my questions

    for one, how is the relationship between a galaxy and its supermassive blackhole in anyway related to the expansion of the universe?

    secondly, the redshift proof of universal expansion is one of the most widely accepted phenomena in modern Cosmology second only to the molecular theory of matter

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expanding_universe#Observational_evidence

    but i will save you the trouble since you never do your research anyways

    the redshift gave us the first evidence that the universe was in motion

    most galaxies are in redshift moving away from us, but some like andromeda are blushifted, moving towards us

    refute that, i dare you

    oh and this part:

    yes the universe is expanding, if it isnt why is 99% of it redshifted

    if it was shrinking 99% of it would be blueshifted

    also your statement is impossible because even energy cannot move faster than light. so it could not have reached maximum size (if that exists) so soon.

    but first answer my Goddamn questions

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  23. Lady Historica Banned Banned

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    Really what's so hard to get about a sin curve? Y stays between 1 and -1 while "seemingly" jumping around randomly displaying all possible frequencies for that particular particle or galactic mass defined by X for all numbers real or imaginary.


    They are both part of the universe....

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    nope try again. You got proof the galaxies are moving away from "US", but nothing about the universe in its entirety. Just because it is a widely accepted idea does not mean that it is perfectly correct, there is a larger picture here. If I were to move to the entire opposite end of the "Universe" to where all places are blue shift it would still not mean it was "shrinking" It would just mean some large objects are moving closer together. Like some massively giant aliens are playing a game of marbles.
     

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