Wonders of your favorite scify!

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  1. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    except for the fact tht the machines vastly outnumber said person.

    Its like if Palpatine tried to corrupt a tyranid hive tyrant. The tyrant's conscioussness is practically a manifestation of the entire hive mind. The hive mind is made up of billions and billions and billions of organisms, and tens of millions of those could tear palpatine apart in a heartbeat without even trying.

    The hive mind would utterly wreck palpatine, he would go insane as he tried to control something infinitely vast, uncomprehensibly large.
     
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  3. TW Scott Minister of Technology Registered Senior Member

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    Actually, your assuming the machines can fight back. They literally cannot. And machines like the Replicators are inherently linked with each other contantly. So basically one psychic with the telemechanics power triumphs.

    No matter what is out there there is always something bigger and badder. Or in some cases literally snneaks around the defenses with a power you do not expect. This is a cae of that.

    Although here is an ugly idea Phase World CosmoKnights vs Borg
     
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  5. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    yes, they actually can and have done so repeatedly.

    Personally, I believe the nids are bigger and badder then anything else out there, other then the omnipotent beings in numerous scifis.
     
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  7. George1 Registered Senior Member

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    com on, anyone there?there hasn't been any activity for days!!! i am getting bored of checking this every day you know...
     
  8. TW Scott Minister of Technology Registered Senior Member

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    How do you fight something that has an ability to rewrite your entire software in a moment? How do you fight something that already reprogrammed you so you cannot attack it before you ever noticed it.

    They are up there, but can still be brought down. They avoid Necrons like the plague, what does that tell you.
     
  9. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    Well the thing is that the replicators could prevent you from doing it on the hardware or binary level, next time you get a virus find it and try to manually delete it, it won't work if its even a half assed virus.


    Necron players will tell you that its because necrons are bigger and badder then anything out there and the tyranids are no exception.

    Tyranid players will tell you that tyranids ONLY fight to eat and gain BIOMASS. And since necrons have ZERO biomass whatsoever and the vast majority of the dead planets they call their tomb worlds have little to no biomass the tyranids have no interest whatsoever in attacking them because they gain nothing from it. But the tyranids have been known to attack a few necrons outposts on lush and fertile worlds for that biomass but try to avoid the necrons when possible.

    It is possible that the nids are even older then the necrons.
     
  10. TW Scott Minister of Technology Registered Senior Member

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    But telemechanics is not a virus. It's beyond that. It's always the preferred operating code of the machine it's used on. A telemechanic could actually rewrite Data and Lore by rewriting the do called hardcopy.


    And yet necrons are regualrly stomped by players of every other race. Hell, my Gold Reaver Chapter Army (non codex Marines using guidlines in Space Amrine Codex) took out a Necron Horde three times it's size.

    Races in Warhammer 40k are pretty balanced,, it is all in how the armies are used.

    The problem is necrons exist to extinguish life and consume life energy. And truthfully all the Tyranids in the universe are not equal to one C'tan, but then again only the GoEM and the Chaos Gods are on that.

    Necrons would see a Tyranid fleet as a smorgasboard and the resulting conflict would leave leave behind a temporarily weakened Necron force and many many dead Tyranids.
     
  11. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    doesn't matter what it is, can't be done on such a massive scale. Sure you can rewrite one, but there is no garuntee that the combined being of the replicators which is self aware and sentiant would accept it, they would merely reject it and it would disintigrate back to its parts.

    You can't say that, because nobody knows just how many tyranids there are, weve only seen the vanguard to a force that surrounds entire sections of space outside the galaxy, and I don't mean border wise, their entire fleets take up that much space.
     
  12. TW Scott Minister of Technology Registered Senior Member

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    You don't quite get it, do you? This power is absolute over machines. There is no way to fight it. It would literally be like God rewriting the sopftware. There is nothing the Replicators could do to reject it, protect against it, or even remember it had been done to them.

    The C'tan used to consume the energy of Stars for light snacks. Even if you manage to destroy the housing there is still the energy being involved and while it would be free, they have acquired a taste for bio-energy. Basically, the Tyranids would just be a smorgasboard, their only defense would be to run away.
     
  13. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    There is no such thing as an absolute. Just because it always works in one situation doesn't mean it will in another.

    The replicators would simply write over it again, they were given that ability by accident.

    Yah, and there's only what? like two or three c'tan left? I know one of them is trapped.

    Or to just avoid the c'tan.

    But that begs the question, why do the NECRONS avoid the tyranids? The tyranids have literally just flown past necron worlds without bothering them, and the necrons apparently don't do anything back to them.
     
  14. TW Scott Minister of Technology Registered Senior Member

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    Well, your saying Tyranids absolutely regain all biomass. A Palladium Psychic with Telemechanics would conpletely rewrite a Replicator and even take away it's ability to correct itself. Replicators are not god like beings, they are simple machines. Hell they aren;t even in the same league as ARCHIE 3 or the Machine People. And in no way are they'd even register as a problem for Mechanoids.

    Actually there are only 2 C'tan awake with one semi awake. None of the C'tan were ever destroyed they merely slumber.

    Actually, Necrons pretty much just stick to their Tombworlds and the systems they are in. Mostly becuase they still haven;t really woke up yet as a race. Unless the Tyranids are tricked into invading a world that houses sleeping Necrons they are unlikely to face each other.
     
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  16. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    Yah, a lot of c'tan were destroyed
     
  17. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    watching that clip while high would be quite an experience.

    But.... WTF!?!?!?!?
     
  18. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    Okay, I think I have one scifi think that trumps everything else:

    G-d

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  19. SciWriter Valued Senior Member

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    'Nowhere Man' and 'Nikita' inspired me to write 'The Tales of the World Intelligence Agents'. Great shows.
     
  20. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    thats science fiction?
     
  21. SciWriter Valued Senior Member

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    No, I guess not, so I'll pick the old Battlestar Galactica, for it seemed to be ahead of its time, as was Star Wars.
     
  22. TW Scott Minister of Technology Registered Senior Member

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    Actually no, the C'tan themsleves not destroyed. Their physical shell, sure. and most of those C'tan went back to just feast on solar energy. Destroying a C'tan is much like destroys one of the Chaos Gods or the Astral Form of the Emperor.of Man.
     
  23. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    One of the C'tan killed and ate a crapload of the others!
     

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