What does your bedroom look like when you're not in it?

Try to picture your bedroom with you not in it. At first you'll think, "Well ofcourse it looks exactly the same WITH me in it?" Really? Didn't you in fact simply picture it to yourself AS IF you were in it?


Try again now. Now picture what your bedroom looks like with no body in it whatsoever. IOW, no single spatial perspective to see it from--from ALL perspectives at once! Furthermore, picture each object--the bed, the chair, the walls, relative to no body of specific size. IOW, the room relative to any size at all, from an atom to the universe. Now picture the colors and shadows and shapes inside the room uninterpreted by an eye and a brain. IOW, a cacaphony of electromagnetic waves flying unimpeded and unsensed in all directions at once. THIS is what your room looks like when you're not in it. A bit scary isn't it?

"Awwww", but you may say.."I can put a video camera in the room and film how it looks without me in it." But really, isn't the camera simply recording images as a bodily surrogate. It sits at a certain perspective. It has a certain size. It records the same frequencies and amplitudes our eye would. So it is still a simulated bodily perspective of the room (a prosthetic remotely located "eye" so to speak) thus resulting in a simulated embodied viewing of it. Or perhaps a real viewing it, depending on how literally one interprets the video image to be.

 

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This makes me think its possible our senses are not adapted to consciously observe aliens in planets or in the universe if they exist.

I suspect that if aliens do exist in some capacity in the universe they may not be able to see us. There "hardware" may be configured to suit there "software" so to speak.....

 

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My bedroom only exists when there is someone to perceive it.

 

Exactly, but if in an imaginary realm of its existance apart from ego I would say it looks like Fukushima the seconds before the disaster.

 

What? I can easily view my bedroom without being in it. I stand out side the room and look in through the doorway. It looks the same as when I'm in it, except the perspective is slightly different for obvious reasons.

 

Obviously, when I'm not in my bedroom it's not nearly so seductive and inviting!

 

I do three major things in my bedroom, sleep, watch TV and work on my computer, and that's about 90% of my time. Doesn't leave much to the imagination, but I know my bedroom gets lonely when I'm away more than a couple of hours, because of the warm good feeling I get every time return to it.

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Mine has more room in it when I'm not there.
Hmm, maybe I can buy more books.

 

I think the lizards are having parties while I'm not in there! I find little sofas and chairs sometimes when I reenter my bedroom.

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It's ok to call them books I guess, what are they, The Razzler Annual and The Busty Babes Box Set/ Hee hee!

 

No! Proper books. With covers and words and stuff. Some with equations in.

 

I see, Vital Statistics, honest Guv'nor!

 

Mine currently looks like a laundry pile.
The dryer's broke.
Due to my allergies all line-drying has to occur inside.

We're really clothes-tipated.

 

Sometimes the moon has been in my bedroom on its rare probabilistic excursions. I can tell because there is moon dust there when I return.

 

Mine looks like the way it does when I am in it except I am not in it. Trees fall in the forest. They do trust Me. You don't have to be there . When your not there they still make one hell of a crash . Now that you can hear from many ridges over . Flies bit Horses when your not around too. Can you believe that . They do!! I seen the welts

 

OMG! I just looked.
When I'm not there it looks like the bridge of the Enterprise!
Spock! leave my duvet alone!

 

The initial Philosophical and Metaphysical point is much the same the Big Bang in Cosmology. A person was asked "Imagine what the universe looks like before you existed?"

They ended up with the same problem, trying to disassociate what they know from what they wouldn't have known, so you end up with the entire Big Bang model with no real clue where anything came from.

We can pretty much state that if we didn't observe a room, who is to say the room exists, who is to say anything exists, currently the only thing that implies that some existence is existing is the fact that we observe a perspective, without a perspective there is nothing.

 

Yeah..I have a problem with those same damn interdimensional lizards. Disgusting high-falut'n jerks. The little purple couches they leave don't even go with my bedspread!

 

this is an example to differentiate between what can be perceived or how it's perceived due to the nature of the one perceiving it vs what something reallly is. hypothetically, if another being was of a different consttruct and senses, what is solid to you such as your bed or desk may not be to the other just as the colors you perceive may not be what they see. they may perceive even more elementally or it could be even more contextual but even those things can be just concepts which are moot considering the nature of the perceiver, rather than it being reality to us. for instance, gravity wouldn't be perceived in the way we do to another if it has no effect on their existence. it could be viewed as nonsense or undetectable.