Mississippi Republicans and Miscegenation

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tiassa, Apr 14, 2011.

  1. quinnsong Valued Senior Member

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    I think what is lost here is the more people you set up to win( education, nutrition and healthcare) the better chance of evolutionary progress no matter the race! People like Empty would only allow certain hmm hmmm types to benefit from even the basics, and the rest, can you say slave labor!
     
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  3. EmptySky Banned Banned

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    But it is the single trait which we possess in abundance over other animals and which marks us out as homo sapien (knowing man), ie, human.

    The second part of your statement is a complete non sequitur.

    The achievements of NASA and the military are built on the work of white scientists over several centuries. What this has to do with social engineering legally enforced by the government I've no idea (although, admittedly, these policies are created by whites, there's a link there I guess, if you'd like to think about it).

    No. I'm sure that somehow invalidates all my reasoning regarding race.

    And at least an ant can lift several times its own body weight or a flea jump several times its own height. Can I do that? No siree! If I could I'd be Superman!

    (As an aside, why do you think super hero comic books are an American cultural invention?)

    The next post will no doubt contain the name of some black person with an above average IQ or perhaps some white person who has a low IQ as evidence that race doesn't exist, or yet another ad hominem directed at me.

    If it makes you feel any better, you know, like you're down with the brothers, Americans actually have amongst the lowest recorded IQ's of people in any developed nation.

    Perhaps I'm wrong and in America race doesn't actually exist any more.
     
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  5. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    I could shoot you in the legs and then win a race with you, that isn't the same thing as fair competition. Blacks and other groups have been the victims of irrational white hatred up until as recently as the 1960s, when the space program first developed. It was no different than corporations desiring a monopoly. In other words, where is your control group that separates racist culture from actual race?
     
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  7. EmptySky Banned Banned

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    There is no such thing as 'irrational white hatred', as you put it. Rejection of other races amongst the white working class may have taken on more violent dimensions than that of the aristocracy but that was only due to the material circumstances poor whites found themselves in. Just like in any number of wars the working class has had to do the dirty work.

    There is no separation of culture from race, just as one cannot separate the birds nest from the bird or the beaver from the dam.

    Racism originally meant rejecting races other than white, it was something to be proud of - but more importantly it was connected to an evolutionary trend. That its value has become inverted is entirely to do with the work of certain Jewish intellectuals in their attempt to assimilate unnoticed into European civilization.

    See Racism by Magnus Hirschfeld, Translated and Edited by Eden and Cedar Paul, published by Victor Gollancz, London, (1938).

    http://www.infotextmanuscripts.org/man_who_invented_racism_3.html
     
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  8. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    I see, so you are an anti-semite in addition to a racist. Racism is nothing to be proud of, it denies the legacy of most of the human story. It's fine to be proud of European society and all it's achievements, but know that most of that was due to an accident of location. Europe had a good climate suitable for agriculture, it had animals that could be domesticated, and thanks to their filthy habits and the plague, they developed resistance to disease that could wipe out those who had never before come into contact with it. Read "Guns, Germs and Steel" by Jared Diamond if you want to know more about it.

    In America, blacks and other minorities did all the dirty work, so if you are proud of your country, you would have to acknowledge their contribution. Blacks generated most of the wealth in our early days, and the Chinese built our railroads. Blacks also fought in our wars with bravery and honor (but not so much for the Confederacy).
     
  9. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    You do know that the human body produces a chemical called Melanin which attributes to colouration through pigmentation. All Humans have this chemical and hormone Melatonin, it's just some humans have that pigmentation generated in quantity because of different genetic traits compared to others.


    I guess what I am saying is that we all have the capacity to be black or white (or pretty much any shade in between) so your racial analogies are pointless and very backwards.
     
  10. YoYoPapaya Trump/Norris - 2012 Registered Senior Member

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    Who is your favorite historical figure?
     
  11. Trippy ALEA IACTA EST Staff Member

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    Have you thought this through?

    Tell me somethign, you do realize that Europeans are more genetically diverse than polynesians, and so, according to your 'logic' are lower on the eveolutionary ladder, and closer to primates than Polynesians? (Or American Indians, for that matter).
     
  12. Bells Staff Member

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    Something that all should keep in mind, the link EmptySky provides in his post leads us to a site run by someone called Alexander Baron who is also a holocaust denier as well as a raving homophobe. The link is actually part of a 'pamplet' - by Baron of Magnus Hirschfeld, a brilliant doctor and outspoken advocate for the rights of homosexuals in Europe in the early to mid 1900's. And yes, Hirschfeld is Jewish (again look at the words used by EmptySky in the post where he links the words of Baron)..


    Baron's opening page of the pamplet is titled as such:


    THE MAN WHO INVENTED "RACISM"

    - And His Evil Legacy

    By Alexander Baron



    Cringe worthy at best.


    The back cover of the the work by Baron:


    Racism is a political and social hot potato. It is something all establishment politicians condemn without hesitation, and something that only either the very brave or the very foolish will defend openly, even on Libertarian grounds. But is this only common sense and common humanity, or have we all been conned?

    In this short study, the author traces the creation and evolution of racism, which surprisingly originated only in the 20th Century rather than with the rise of slavery as its opponents claim. Painstakingly he dissects the phony semantic arguments of the "anti-racists" exposing their brainwashing and bully boy tactics, and the inevitable result of promoting "anti-racist" policies. Finally, he proposes a solution for their genocidal campaigns.




    But go to the index page of Baron's site and you find out just what kind of person he is and it gives some insight into EmptySky's belief system.


    The argument that EmptySky has attempted to put forward is that a Jew is to blame for inventing "racism" or giving word to the treatment of non-white people.. in other words, he is parroting Baron..


    This is classic white supremacist stuff.
     
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  13. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    so bigotries based on this other than ethnicity are ok? because your kind of implying that.
     
  14. The Ape Hunter Registered Senior Member

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    The problem is that in order to subscribe to the picture painted by this poll, one must trust in the credibility of the source of this information. The world of political activism & propaganda dissemination is not exactly my first, personal choice of where to find sweet, honest, heavenly angels

    However, well documented, recorded, historical accounts that are further supported by a wide range of independent but relevant facts, are indeed, quite credible.

    Case in point, the fact that after the Civil War, America's Blacks were understandably & logically Republicans... due to Abraham Lincoln having been Republican. Therefor, those who opposed Lincoln & his "Emancipation Proclamation", were the Democrats.

    Its a historical fact that the abolishing of slavery in Britain, was a Christian/Conservative movement. In turn, it sparked Christians/Conservatives in America to follow the same path by actively pursuing the abolishing of slavery

    From immediately after the Civil War up to the civil rights movement of the 1960's (approx.100 yrs), all political, legislative attempts to advance racial civil rights were put forth by conservative Republicans & continually opposed by Democrats

    Since American Blacks were Republicans after the Civil War, is why the KKK was a construct of the Democrat Party

    In Birmingham, Alabama, the resistance to racism was lead by conservative, Christian clergy, such as the Reverend MLK & other Christian Reverends. However, the state Governor, city Mayor, Police Chief, fire hoses & German Shepherds were all Democrats... opposed to the rightfulness

    While Christians were fighting & being martyred for a just social cause which would better the world, other Leftist Democrats were simultaneously hard at work in attempting to hallucinate a utopia into existence

    One of the greatest lessons to be learned from the era; - when music is clearly your calling, due to being better than the rest, stay far removed from politics... for it is there where you will exceedingly "SUCK"

    Of course, this is applicable exclusively to Leftist Democrats. Others are exempted
     
  15. quinnsong Valued Senior Member

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    Yes after insulting this guy incessantly, I felt kinda guilty and went to this site and read the revisionist drivel he is spewing and I am glad I insulted him.
     
  16. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    another rightie trying to steal the accomplishmesnts of liberals. the civil rights movement was a liberal idea. once again we see gross ignorance of history and gross distortions of history.
     
  17. JuNie Registered Senior Member

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    That's exactly what I said, but people don't realize how many people still believe in white supremacy ideology here in the states.
     
  18. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    But the Democrats you are talking about weren't "leftists". Geez, read a book.

    Slavery was also justified by the Bible and the civil rights movement was not an exclusively religious movement. To say so disparages the many secular civil rights leaders. It would have happened with the Bible or not. In fact, King could easily have used the Bible to justify slaughtering his enemies.
     
  19. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    How so?
     
  20. JuNie Registered Senior Member

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    Yo pjdude1219 what people don't understand is that Democrats back then were not Liberals. The Democratic party/Republican Party have done a complete 180 as far as ideological stances are concerned.

    Look up History of the Dixiecrat Democratic Party. All the southern racist moved from the Democratic party into the Republican party in the 1950's due to the civil rights movement.

    So when someone tries to say shit about Democrats BEFORE 1950 the fact is it's not the same as the current Democratic Party. It was Liberal Republicans that aided in Civil Rights and Slavery. NOT the people currently in the Republican party. Not the same ideology...not even close.
     
  21. madanthonywayne Morning in America Registered Senior Member

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    Why in the world would you be ashamed about something you have nothing to do with?
    Why are beavers building dams natural, but humans building skyscrapers un-natural?
    So what? what's so great about being "natural"? It's natural for large numbers of women and children to die during childbirth. It's also natural for large numbers of the young and the elderly to die From the flu every year. And for old people to go blind from cataracts. And for children born with hair lips to suffer their entire lives.

    I could go on, but the point should be clear, what's so great about "natural".
     
  22. EmptySky Banned Banned

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    Listen to what you're saying, that our physical structure is a matter of choice, like what breakfast cereal one will have today or what color shoes one will wear or what color one will dye ones hair this week. This is the logic of a feminized consumer mind. To hear a moderator say this on a science website is, quite frankly, disturbing.

    Pigmentation is only one trait amongst many, a whole explication of which would shock you to the core. To know that it is the contemporary concept of the 'human race' that is the social construct... not the races themselves, and that many of the creatures one shares the street with are potentially more alien and threatening to us and our future evolution than any lion or tiger, that is the reality of our existence.

    Darwin showed us that what is bestial about man is not the cause of some metaphysical, horned demon floating around outside of us and trying to deceive us, it is our own physical nature from which the gradual process of evolution is liberating us.

    Even if science allowed one to choose the physical characteristics of one's child, those choices would inevitably be the same ones that evolution has already selected for - greater intelligence and self-awareness... greater sentience. Consumerism - in how it conceals race - is only a cheap drug, one that you buy daily with your Starbucks coffee and croissant, and like all drugs it alters our perception of the world, making us the victims of the very economic forces that control it.
     
  23. EmptySky Banned Banned

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    This is a good point. Genetic diversity alone cannot indicate evolutionary progress, one must tally it with physical change in an organism and the trajectory that change has taken. This must be measured against primitive, extant phenotypes as well as those extinct ones in the fossil record.
     

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