Was OBL's assassination legal, ethical and righteous?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by New Atheist, May 5, 2011.

  1. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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  3. Ghost_007 Registered Senior Member

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    He also denied responsibility at one point.

    I don't believe he has ever explicitly claimed responsibility. That alone should raise some eyebrows.
     
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  7. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Due process is not something that applies to emergency situations. When suspected killer is holed up with hostages and refuses to surrender, we send in a swat team and preferably capture, but if that's not possible or practical, we kill them.
     
  8. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    If I'm the leader of a terrorist organization, I say, oh well, I guess you got me. 72 year old virgins, here I come.
     
  9. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Sorry are you saying there is no dispute among those people who are fighting the war of 9/11 in the two countries which had absolutely nothing at all to do with it? I'm not sure how that is supposed to lend credibility to the argument

    Find me one piece of indisputable evidence that

    1. Osama is the head of al Qaeda

    2. Osama masterminded 9/11

    In all fairness I have to tell you that the FBI has already admitted they cannot link Osama to 9/11 and if you believe that al Qaeda is responsible for 9/11 as they claim to do, then you have to wonder exactly what evidence they have linking Osama to al Qaeda

    FBI says, it has “No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11”

    Back when I got interested in the topic I scoured bin Laden's statements and videos and he never mentions al Qaeda.
     
  10. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Even if he wasn't responsible, he was certainly a fan and encouraged more people to do similar actions. That warrants death in my opinion. We should have held a funeral in Pakistan, and everyone that shows up gets a nice cluster bomb in the face.
     
  11. Ghost_007 Registered Senior Member

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    As highlighted in the video, Osama Bin Laden did not refer to his group as Al-Qaeda. The Americans used the term, Al-Zawahiri has said they liked the name and stuck with it.

    Before 9/11 and after 9/11 there have been various extremist groups and leaders that have orchestrated terrorist attacks (nothing on the scale of 9/11), many of them more hardline and more bloodthirsty than Bin Laden.

    Among Islamist circles, Bin Laden was infact considered soft. He was not as extreme as guys like Al-Zarqawi or even Shamil Basayev.
     
  12. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Thats like saying Afghans and Iraqis should shoot Americans who support their troops.

    The thing with all this moronic focus on OBL is that the people who actually masterminded 9/11 get away scot free
     
  13. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    But they already do that.
     
  14. Ghost_007 Registered Senior Member

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    True.

    lol. okay man, calm down. He's gone.
     
  15. SilentLi89 Registered Senior Member

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    According to the class I took on espionage and intelligence. The US does not do assassinations anymore, the government likes to take the high ground... the US only does "targeted killings"

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    . Meaning that they don't just kill random people for political gain (not offically anyway), but if they're deemed a threat to national security by the president then their name is put on the "targeted killing list" and it's "okay" for the government to kill them. Osama bin Ladin has probably been on the list for quite some time. If you're a threat to national security then apparently you don't get due process. I guess nobody cares what you have to say since they would kill you at the end of your trial anyway.
     
  16. Pinwheel Banned Banned

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    Do you think Gaddafi is on that list?
     
  17. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    So SAM you need to get on WIKI and start editing it...

    You can start with this FIRST line:

    Set the world right....

    Let's see how long your edits last.....

    LOL
     
  18. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Now why would I do that? I might as well publish that Osama was responsible for the global anthrax attacks

    Seriously dudes
     
  19. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    Oh really?

    And WHO would those people be SAM?
     
  20. New Atheist Registered Member

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    I did not know this. wow. is that the only time he is thought to have 'admited'? What was the other evidence that was so conclusive to warrant a death sentence?
     
  21. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    9/11 was just one of many attacks that were posed as Osama Bin Laden's, however it was not it's first and shouldn't be seen as the sole reason that people were after him. After all he was exiled from Saudi Arabia for his activities prior to this and it's likely that his retaliation was really about being Exiled from his homeland.
     
  22. New Atheist Registered Member

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    Thats what is scary. But if OBL wasn't the mastermind, then who was/is?
     
  23. New Atheist Registered Member

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    I dont think you can expect him to know, but wouldn't you consider it possible that if OBL was not behind it, then the person who did order/plan it is still out there? Even you cannot deny that.
     

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