How do you know that it was Jesus who died on the cross?

Discussion in 'Religion Archives' started by wynn, Sep 29, 2011.

  1. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    Its simple, they hunted and killed Jesus and any known followers, and then they burnt everything he ever touched.
     
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  3. arauca Banned Banned

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    Don't be so quick using your favorite word nonsense .
    did not a dog evolved from a wolf ?
    Did not Christianity evolved from Judaism ?
    Did not the protestant evolved from Catholicism
    Evolved to me means some transformation have taken place


    Now roll your eyes and say nonsense
     
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  5. arauca Banned Banned

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    I am glad you found a source that Jesus existed
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    The Talmud said Jesus is in hell in a vat of boiling shit - do you agree with that?

    I ma sure the Talmud did not say that, you are just malicious
     
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  7. Arioch Valued Senior Member

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    @arauca --

    Comparing biological evolution through natural selection to societal change, not a good idea. For one the mechanisms behind them are completely different, and therefore they cannot be used for a valid comparison. In fact, the only point of commonality I can find between the two is that they're change, that's not enough to draw a valid comparison.

    Ah, using layman's terms on a science site, good job. To paraphrase Vader, "I find your lack of debating skills disturbing."
     
  8. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Why? Especially when you persist in posting nonsense.

    Which does not prove that Jesus existed.

    Sheer and utter nonsense.
     
  9. arauca Banned Banned

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    I am disturbed by your one sided view ,
     
  10. arauca Banned Banned

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    I say again you don't offer to the discussion ,but act just like a tit on a bull
     
  11. Arioch Valued Senior Member

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    @arauca --

    Regardless of what you think of Dyw's discussion skills, he is right in that nothing you've posted comes even remotely close to proving a historical Jesus. The sad fact of the matter is that your best argument in this thread was an argument from popularity which is fallacious on it's face.
     
  12. Kapyong Writer Registered Senior Member

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    Gday,

    Hahaha.
    Claims that Jesus is in hell in a vat of boiling shit is evidence for Jesus existing?
    Really ?



    You're SURE?
    But yet you did NOT check !
    Instead of checking the facts you just called me a liar!
    Pathetic.

    Here is the reference :

    Gittin 57a.
    Says Jesus is in hell, being boiled in "hot excrement."

    The Text
    Talmud Gittin 56b-57a

    [Onkelos Bar Kalonikus] called up Balaam from the dead. [Onkelos] asked: Who is honored in that world? [Balaam] replied: Israel. [Onkelos asked:] What about joining them? [Balaam] replied: (Deut. 23:7) "You shall not seek their peace or welfare all your days." [Onkelos] asked: What is your punishment? [Balaam answered]: In boiling semen.

    [Onkelos] called up Yeshu from the dead. [Onkelos] asked: Who is honored in that world? [Yeshu] replied: Israel. [Onkelos asked:] What about joining them? [Yeshu] replied: Seek their good. Do not seek their bad. Whoever touches them is as if he touched the pupil of his eye. [Onkelos] asked: What is your punishment? [Yeshu answered]: In boiling excrement. As the mast said: Whoever mocks the words of the sages in punished in boiling excrement.


    K.
     
  13. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Still wrong.
    I asked how your existence is evidence for Jesus' existence (which was your claim).
    So far you haven't done anything other than make excuses and silly comparisons.
     
  14. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    Do you just make up this nonsense as you go along?
     
  15. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    This is a very real possibility.
     
  16. arauca Banned Banned

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  17. Kapyong Writer Registered Senior Member

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    Gday all,

    Ever noticed how creationists are not smart enough to figure out how to use quotes on messageboards?

    arauca - don't you ever check your posts after submitting?
    Don't you notice your quotes are often broken?
    It makes you look stupid.
    Don't you care?


    K.
     
  18. arauca Banned Banned

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    Thank you for the complement . What do you have against creationist ?
    I am just an ignorant person who do not have the facts about the beginning of the earth and the evolution of the specie.
    But I am very happy that the theist are smart and have all facts on how we come into the wold ,yet they ca not make a living cell from the raw chemicals that make a cell
     
  19. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    You mean Atheist, not theist.

    Perhaps you should take a moment to read what you post, before you post it. :shrug:
     
  20. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Oh, this wouldn't be yet another misrepresentation would it?
    A false claim.

    Followed by another strawman.

    They tend to be dishonest, deceitful and ignorant.
    Apart from that they're lovely people.
     
  21. Kapyong Writer Registered Senior Member

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    Gday,

    You mean 'compliment'.
    Complement is something else.
    My point is that you should be more careful with your posts - people judge you by what you write.


    Creationism is religious fantasy.
    And there is a strong force attempting to push it as science.

    It is those kind of people who have influenced and taught you - but sadly, you have been mislead. Most of what you say about evolution e.g. is wrong - and wrong in the very specific ways that creationists always get it wrong.

    At this stage, you are just repeating what creationists told you - but you haven't yet got to the stage where you CHECK things - even with the amazing internet at your fingertips.


    Ignorance can be fixed.
    We all start out ignorant.
    We WANT you to want to learn.

    But hearing creationist falsehoods for the millionth time is boring. It's just the CHANCE that you might start questioning that keeps us posting

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    I suspect you meant 'atheist' - which is a dirty word to a believer.
    As if it's a football game here :
    * nasty atheists
    vs
    * wonderful believers

    So vague!
    Come into the wo[r]ld?
    You can't discuss science with woolly phrases like that.

    See?
    A CLASSIC creationist error!
    Evolution does NOT say a living cell formed from raw chemicals.

    The problem is that you don't actually know anything about evolution - what you know is a few creationist FANTASIES about evolution - that was one of them.

    Everything creationists have told you about evolution is false.
    If you want to criticise evolution, then you need to understand it first.

    Otherwise you sound like this :

    Believers have still not explained how Jesus cooked 500 meals of fish while hanging upside down on the cross!

    Can YOU explain how Jesus did that ?


    K.
     
  22. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    He had a gas stove and teflon cookware and used a non-stick spray instead of oil on really big sheet pans.
     
  23. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    By this reasoning, atheism evolved from Protestantism.

    Atheism is the natural evolutionary consequence of Protestantism.
     

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