How do you know that it was Jesus who died on the cross?

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  1. Ellie Banned Banned

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    So then evolution is not magical? Transforming into another being.

    You cannot have it both ways.

    There is a lot more evidence for Jesus than evolution and yet it is possible evolution happened.

    Just sayin':shrug:
     
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  3. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    If you're really going to try to argue against it, shouldn't you find out what it is? Because it's obvious you have no idea how evolution works.
     
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  5. arauca Banned Banned

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    I definitively agree with you
     
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  7. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    Then you definitely cannot take issue with atheism.
     
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  9. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    Here's a tip about using the quote function. You have to click on quote at the end of the quotation as well as the start, otherwise it doesn't close.
     
  10. Kapyong Writer Registered Senior Member

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    Sadly,
    Creationists just aren't smart enough to figure out how to use quotes.


    K.
     
  11. arauca Banned Banned

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    You are so positive that Abraham Jesus , David are myth, If I would be an Atheist I would not be so positive .

    I don't understand what physical evidence do you expect , from Abraham , don't you believe Judaism started with Abraham.
    Don't you believe in Jerusalem there is the burial of David .
    You wanted an other place were Jesus is mentioned beside Josephus , you your self identified Talmud . ( beside you mentioning I have sean mentioning in the period 90 AD
    Who invented Christianity and what was the purpose ,
     
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  13. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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  14. arauca Banned Banned

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    But you still haven't figured out how to use quotes. Even after I told you.[/QUOTE]

    I am sorry I am a UK moron, we are slow but eventually I will make it ,Thank for your help
     
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  15. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    Now click the edit button on your post and try around a bit, to delete that "
     
  16. arauca Banned Banned

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    I am sorry I am a UK moron, we are slow but eventually I will make it ,Thank for your help[/QUOTE]

    now what
     
  17. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    You've deleted too much.
    Hit reply to this post (upper left corner of the post, the button "quote"), and then study the tags.

    To make a text appear in a quote box, immediately before that text, there needs to be the tag [quote_], and at the end of the quoted text, the tag [/quote_] (but without the _).
     
  18. Kapyong Writer Registered Senior Member

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    Gday,

    I didn't say 'so positive' at all - please actually READ my posts next time, thanks

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    Here's what I said :
    Abraham - almost certainly myth
    David - probably myth
    Jesus - possibly myth


    I am not 'so positive'. What a pity you don't read my posts properly :-(

    Nor am I an atheist - why do you keep doing that?
    Because anyone who disagrees with your faith must be an atheist?
    And all atheists are godless heathens who must be wrong?



    Quite simple - the usual type of evidence that we have for real people.



    No, I believe Abraham was almost certainly a myth. So do many historians.


    No there isn't.
    Ther is NO historical tomb or burial place of David.
    The alleged tomb in Jerusalem was only found in the 12th century - 8 centuries ago, over 2 millenia after the alleged David.
    There is no known reason why that place began to be called David's Tomb at all.

    It's clearly a legend, from 1000s of years after the alleged David.

    In fact - there is NO hard evidence for David existing at all.


    I pointed out that the Talmud stories are NOTHING like the Gospel stories, and come from CENTURIES later. They are USELESS as 'mentions' of Jesus.


    Really?
    What mention from 90AD is there?
    Please let us know.

    Who invented Hinduism and what was the purpose?
    Who invented the Greek mystery religion and what was the purpose?
    Who invented the ancient Egyptian religion and what was the purpose?


    Kapyong
     
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    @arauca --

    Not yet, but we're damn close. We can already stitch together an entire genome from raw materials, it's only a matter of time before we can custom build not only any genome we want but any cellular machinery too.

    Next time you want to put down science, you might want to choose an example that isn't in a field where we're experiencing such progress. Oh, and you should probably try to research your examples to make sure that we haven't actually accomplished them already.

    @Ellie --

    No, genotypical changes being expressed phenotypically is not magic at all. It's a direct result of the laws of physics.

    What are you smoking and where can I get some? We have more evidence supporting evolution than we do for anything else in science. Even relativity(which we have to thank for cell phones) and atomic theory aren't even close to being as well evidenced as evolution. Care to try again?

    You're completely ignorant of even the most basic concepts in science.

    Just sayin'.
     
  20. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    Your eventually going to know everything in the world. Then what?
     
  21. Arioch Valued Senior Member

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    @Knowledge --

    But I'm not the one claiming knowledge of everything, or at least everything that matters, that would be you.

    I don't know if science will be able to solve everything or not, nobody does. But I do know that if anything has a shot at it then science does. Nothing else has proven more effective at discovering the truth about reality.
     
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    now what





    I didn't say 'so positive' at all - please actually READ my posts next time, thanks

    Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!



    Here's what I said :
    Abraham - almost certainly myth
    David - probably myth
    Jesus - possibly myth




    I am not 'so positive'. What a pity you don't read my posts properly :-(

    Nor am I an atheist - why do you keep doing that?
    Because anyone who disagrees with your faith must be an atheist?
    And all atheists are godless heathens who must be wrong?





    Quite simple - the usual type of evidence that we have for real people.





    No, I believe Abraham was almost certainly a myth. So do many historians.




    No there isn't.
    Ther is NO historical tomb or burial place of David.
    The alleged tomb in Jerusalem was only found in the 12th century - 8 centuries ago, over 2 millenia after the alleged David.
    There is no known reason why that place began to be called David's Tomb at all.

    It's clearly a legend, from 1000s of years after the alleged David.

    In fact - there is NO hard evidence for David existing at all.




    I pointed out that the Talmud stories are NOTHING like the Gospel stories, and come from CENTURIES later. They are USELESS as 'mentions' of Jesus.




    Really?
    What mention from 90AD is there?
    Please let us know.




    Kapyong[/QUOTE]



    For your information
    http://www.westarkchurchofchrist.org/library/extrabiblical.htm


    To my understanding the name for Jerusalem w as Salim
    To my understanding Abraham is buried by Hebron.

    Real people : Atahualpa , ruler of the Inca
    Guaycaipuro ruler over the indian in New Venezua ( Venezuela )
    How Hatwey the inhabitant if Cuba.
     
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