How do you know that it was Jesus who died on the cross?

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  1. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    I go un smitten. The basis of my argument is God is all around you, and the Son returns soon. They will all awake, behold as he comes with clouds.
     
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  3. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    Wrong. The bible makes me sad. What is taking place makes me sad. What God has sent me to do makes me sad. The outcome makes me sad. I find no joy in the eternal burn that will 1/3 of the world will be scorched with. Im not some God freak. This is why end of times is necissary, people like me getting hacked for showing great faith, just like it says in the bible. I see no hallucinations, I hear the word that is all.
     
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  5. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    I am qualified by my faith, and the word of God, ask him yourself.
     
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  7. LIGHTBEING Registered Senior Member

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    That is no basis....that is just an assertion on your part..........
     
  8. LIGHTBEING Registered Senior Member

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    I just did, God just told me that you are a lyer and by your logic this would qualify as evidence but here we are in a pickle. My interpretation is completely contrary to yours based on Faith alone. Do you get it yet?
     
  9. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, do you? You have no faith, how could you possibly speak to God? Do not lie to me, God say's do not lie in his name, or in the presence of his son or face consequence's.
     
  10. LIGHTBEING Registered Senior Member

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    Right right.....so you have to believe before you recieve. Backwards thinking.

    My point is that two unique individuals of contrary faiths(ideals) can and do qualify themselves just as stubbornly however their alleged evidence is not objective and has absolutely no basis other then their own interpretations and wishful thinkings.

    And when/where did God say that????
     
  11. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    In response to your lie. You do not know my faith, do not tempt the the Father. Receive then believe, you ignorant twat, God gave you life, bow your damned head.
     
  12. arauca Banned Banned

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    How do you know your Grand father or your Grand mother died , very simply . You went to their funeral . So did Mary went to bury her son .
    Did your father made any hupla to bury his father, no that is a private matter.
    When JFK died so a big hupla was made , but ,many of us did not give a dam.
    So is the same could happen during Jesus time. Jesus was not a resident of Jerusalem , he was from Galilee, He was not a local boy. So they got rid of him in a most quiet possible way.
    Hanging on a cross there were many
    The whole point . The message he carried was it good humanity ? and if it was good.it was accepted by many, and it was expanded until NOW.
     
  13. LIGHTBEING Registered Senior Member

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    Sorry knowledge, I pointed out that your logic is flawed, then you carry on with insults....typical.

    I only know what you have written on Sciforums which is good enough to make my case and to point out your epic failure.

    Saying that God gave me life is just another assertion by you. What else do you have to offer?
     
  14. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    Have faith or burn. I offer you no logic, just do what I say.
     
  15. Kapyong Writer Registered Senior Member

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    Gday,

    Events that you / I might directly witness nowadays.
    OK.


    A STORY from a religious book, of unknown author, from millenia ago, a story full of supernatural events and unearthly beings.

    You cannot possibly be comparing the two ?



    A CONSPIRACY to keep Jesus' existence quiet?
    Seriosuly?


    Many ancient religous works carry a message.
    Doesn't mean their magical beings existed.

    Did Hercules exist? Osiris? Bacchus? Zeus? Demeter?
    Of course not.

    But Jesus is YOUR faith, so you believe he did.

    Just like many Swiss people still believe the FICTIONAL William Tell was real.

    Just like many Indians believe Krishna was real.

    Just like some English people believed Sherlock Holmes was real.

    Doesn't mean they WERE real at all.


    K.
     
  16. markl323 Registered Senior Member

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    you missed the point by a mile, not that you ever had any good grasp of what has been discussed anyways.
     
  17. Ellie Banned Banned

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    You didnt make a point.
     
  18. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    The quintisential statement of religion.
     
  19. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    But it doesnt mean it won't happen. Genetic change as a earthly explanation.

    I could re write the bible in a day in 2 pages, tops.


    Essentialy the end game is to control people now a days, that would be a secret that is kept from even prominent members of the NWO players club. If they have a reason to keep Jesus quiet, then they have a reason to fear me

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    Doesn't mean celestrial beings DO NOT exist

    Did Hercules exist? Osiris? Bacchus? Zeus? Demeter?

    possibly, probably, who, no, who?

    Jesus exist, I tell you this with grand certainty my friend.

    Faith is tested over and over friend.

    But... they might be.

    k?
     
  20. LIGHTBEING Registered Senior Member

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    Right.....your argument is basically "because I said so". You offer no support whatsoever.

    Have Faith in what? You haven't even offered a definition of what you are referring to. Have Faith in your evidence of prophets, saints and messages from God?
     
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    Sense you are so knowledge and believe in documentation.
    In 1800 ++ Van Gogh died . Can you tell how did he died.
    My point is if at these dating age we can not point out clearly , How do you can be so positive that Jashua did not ddie on the cross.
     
  22. LIGHTBEING Registered Senior Member

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    He could have easily died on the cross, just like anyone else back in that day and age. The extraordinary claim is that he rose from the dead.
     
  23. arauca Banned Banned

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    Then If an eye witness would say that to you would we believe him or not

    Do we believe those people who have seen him or not . At same time how did they establish death , Then if we believe in the all mighty , could he do it for him .
     

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