is it possible that Moses was Epyption Pharaoh?

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  1. river

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    there are theories that , suggest that , this is possible

    comments ,ideas , understandings

    lets not get over the top with imaginative ideas

    lets try to base any theory , on what we know , now

    to delive into the History of Egyptians for a start

    and it is just a start
     
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  3. Me-Ki-Gal Banned Banned

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    I think so my self . I think it had something to do with Akhenaten Monotheism and a split in Ideology of Egypt. It all came to a head in the Moses story of Exodus . They say Moses wrote the first 4 books of the Bible . I don't know if you ever heard that before . Then there is Bithiah . She was Pharaohs Daughter. She was also the Daughter of God . You figure that one out . Jewish Mystics say she was Moses Mother ( Foster Mom if you want to believe that ) I think she was his Mother my self and was dinking around with one of the mercenaries that latter became Hebrews . Got pregnant and devised this plan to save her little bastard son . I think it was not lawful for royalty to Marry Mercenaries even back in Pharaohs day Kingship would marry Kingship to keep the peace between Ruling tribes . Like the Mittani Peoples Princesses Marrying into the Pharaohs .

    Yeah I think so . Something might have happened to exile Him and he could have just been half royal blood line and Half Hebrew . Or like they say All Hebrew and just raised in Pharaohs court . What is funny to Me is Bithiah went with Moses and the Israelites . They gave her the name " The Daughter of God . There is also a town in Israel with a similar name as Bithiah and Even King David down to Jesus would go to that town for spiritual guidance . Could that be remnants of Bithiah's Family line ? Don't know but there is a mystery there . The story is not complete as presented in the King James Bible . Them self serving Bastards left a bunch of books out you know. The cannonball version that is . Blow em up Bible
     
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  5. river

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    what are you trying to say , for those of us not in the know ?
     
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  7. Me-Ki-Gal Banned Banned

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    I am saying that when Joseph brought the family to Egypt they intertwined with the Egyptians of the day . As Spidey would say they fucked there women just like Americans did the French Girls in World War 2 . How long was they in Egypt ? How long did the blood lines mix ? Joseph found favor in pharaohs court . There was a split some were and Akenatens Monotheism he got form the Mittani Bride took hold . I seen some stuff that said there was evidence of Mittani having a Monotheism religion of there own . Little is known about that tribe of peoples so it could all be speculation . I didn't make it up though . Some one else did .

    Wow I did a little checking on Wikipedia. The Qur"an says Bithiah is Asiya the wife of Pharaoh . The story ties in nicely with Me Great house of paradise thing and Building the temple . The wings of the sanctuary and all that . Man A live freaky .

    It says That Asiya was built a Mansion in Paradise to escape the wrath of Pharaoh . She is the example given by Mohammad of the way a Muslim should be . Wow A woman . Am I missing something ? I got to go look at that again
     
  8. Arioch Valued Senior Member

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    And then there are those of us who think that, and there's much to back this up, Moses never actually existed and that he's nothing more than a fictional character.
     
  9. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    Except Yehoshua certainly existed and inherited Moses' stuff.
     
  10. Arioch Valued Senior Member

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    Mere speculation. There's no way of verifying that.
     
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  12. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    No I don't think so. I've read the theories about moses being equal to son of in the Egyptian language but the single most convincing argument against an Egyptian Moses is that he does not exist in Egyptian myth and Egyptians have been tapping out the tales of their rulers for too many years to ignore this omission. Its more likely that Moses is a plagiarised version of the tale of the Babylonian myth about Sargon.

     
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    For you no one existed , do you exist , You know every thing , let other people express their view .
     
  14. arauca Banned Banned

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    Have you checked the library of Alexandria ?
     
  15. Arioch Valued Senior Member

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    @arauca --

    Glib, nice, I like it. However you're completely off base.

    Is the myth of the Exodus based on something that actually happened? Perhaps, I really don't know, but we do know that it didn't actually happen and that, outside of the bible, there's absolutely no reliable record that anyone resembling Moses(from the story) ever existed.

    Here's what we do know. We know that there was no concentration of Hebrew slaves in Egypt. We know that there was no mass exodus of anyone, Hebrew or not, from Egypt. We know that there was no grand chase involving any army. We know that there are no extra-biblical sources for the existence of a man named Moses.

    Given all of these things, which is the safe bet to take?

    I never said that, I just said that the whole reasoning for believing that anything in the OT actually happened is bull. There's no supporting evidence and all we have is a bunch of poorly constructed stories. Where in this do you find the claim that I think that I know everything? Oh, that's right, you pulled it out of some orifice somewhere.

    I have, quite diligently I might add. I've done nothing to stymie or impede people from expressing their views. Criticizing their views is not censorship. In fact, if you want to go that route, then I will be quick to remind you that all I'm doing here is expressing my views.

    Oh, you mean that library which was destroyed? Yeah, kind of makes it difficult to check.
     
  16. Itseemstome Registered Senior Member

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    It seems probable, assuming he existed. The languages around that part of the world didn't have vowels and, apparently, mss or m's's was 'son of'. Hence moses is 'son of' just as Rmss (Rameses) was son of the sun and Thutmosis was son of the moon.

    Furthermore, since all the mummies of Pharoahs seem to contain many halucinogenic substances, the story of the burning bush would seem to suggest that he also had access to them.

    It would seem that the pharoahs were the 'medicine men' or 'shamans' of their day. Since they lasted for some thousands of years it would further seem that they might have been on to something!
     
  17. Medicine*Woman Jesus: Mythstory--Not History! Valued Senior Member

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    M*W: I have read and confirm what you say to be true. Have you ever read any Ahmed Osman? He researched the Eighteenth Dynasty and has written several books on this subject. The "Moses" of the Pentateuch had several different names. His birth name was Aminadab. He may or may not have existed. I believe he did exist and was the son of Pharaoh Tuthmose III or IV, I forget which. He was known as Akhenaten. The Exodus didn't happen, at least not within the Eighteenth Dynasty. "Moses" means something like "taken from the water." It's a title. The whole myth of Moses may have been plagarized from the story of Sargon. At any rate, most of the bible stories were taken from earlier myths. Pharaohs believed themselves to be gods. Akhenaten was a sun worshipper. The Hebrews came out of the tribe of poor shepherds known in Egypt as the Habiru. They weren't "slaves" technically. They were shepherders and that was a lowly trade. They "wandered" in the desert (Sinai), because that is what they did. They wandered throughout their lives. Moses however didn't write the Pentateuch. It has been studied for years by biblical scholars and archeologists and has been proven to be false. It's a subject I love to read about.
     
  18. Me-Ki-Gal Banned Banned

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    That is pretty good stuff there Medicine Woman . Now the way I heard it was that Bithiah was Akhenatens great great great grand daughter. Yet it is still the same place the one god was pasted down from . Except I think Akhenaten got it from his Mittani bride . Speculation of course
     

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