Is the earth expanding?

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  1. Robittybob1 Banned Banned

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    II think you have made a good observation. One that fits in with the decompressing Earth hypothesis. The gradual loss of the atmosphere would make it impossible for Archaeopteryx to fly today.
    The sudden loss of atmospheric pressure when the asteroid struck meant the blood couldn't get to the heads of the long necked dinosaurs. The blood pressure had atmospheric pressure assistance. (Weight of the blood was supported by the density of the air.)

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  3. florian Debunking machine Registered Senior Member

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    There is tidal braking. And that is what accelerate the moon on its orbit which force it to move to an higher orbit.
     
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  5. florian Debunking machine Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, the year length is not calculated from tidalites. It is assumed to remain constant during geological times.
    And every other orbital parameters are linked to that key assumption.
    This is the weakness of the method.
     
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  7. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    On this we agree.

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  8. florian Debunking machine Registered Senior Member

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    :cheers:

    That is equally stupid to deny an increase in mass by denying the existence of observations proving that the size of our planet increased.
     
  9. Robittybob1 Banned Banned

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    Well did you identify the mechanism that was creating the additional mass?
    Work back from that.
     
  10. florian Debunking machine Registered Senior Member

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    I really don't give a fuck about what pseudoscientists and wannabe scientists are thinking. I'm only interested in the science.
     
  11. florian Debunking machine Registered Senior Member

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    No and what does it change to the fact that Earth is growing in mass?
     
  12. Gneiss2011 Registered Senior Member

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    So florian self contradict.

    I concur. Except that nobody has show observation or empirical evidence of Earth expansion until now (as far as I know).

    No, there is no consensus among EE proponents. By example, Samuel Carey denied convergence and subduction, florian seem to acknowledge some convergence and some subduction, Neals Adams talk about PMP... You can meet several of them in this thread.

    But florian claim there are such evidence. Maybe he will tell you if you ask him politely? :shrug: He refuse to tell me. :bawl:

    I think that it is also sad.

    Show those observations.
     
  13. Robittybob1 Banned Banned

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    So you know EE theory is a fact? So let’s do the calculations WRT the Moons orbit, Earth orbits and the tidalites. Surely me must be able to identify the reasoning behind it.

    Right how was the Moon formed? Would a small Earth be able to capture it?
    What would happen if the Moon whacked into a small Earth?

    I can see problems with both those scenarios if a small Earth is involved.
     
  14. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    Uh no. There are only a 'select' few who have convinced themselves that the earth is expanding. Take a good look at your 'expanding earth' friends.

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  15. florian Debunking machine Registered Senior Member

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    Ouh the dirty lies. :spank:

    You posted these observations in post #678 that I commented in post #679 .

    I know only one guy who uses this kind of dirty rhetoric and that I encountered on some french fora.
    Discussing with this guy proved to be as useless as arguing with a creationist.
    Besides, this guy is an obsessional weirdos who tried many time to invade my private life.
    I'm pretty sure now that you and this guy are the same person.
    The only valid solution in this case is to ignore you.
    So from now on, I will simply ignore your posts. :wave:
     
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  16. florian Debunking machine Registered Senior Member

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    Frankly, I see no friends here.
    Most of these EE supporters you find of forum have no more clues about EE than the other regular members. They have even lesser clues about plate tectonics. They give a disastrous image of EE.
    At least, some of the regular members are knowledgable in geosciences.

    Regarding the observations, look at my message #732.
     
  17. Trippy ALEA IACTA EST Staff Member

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    I didn't say there wasn't.

    Only if the mass gain is below some critical value.
    Above the critical value, the moon will spiral inwards regardless of tidal braking.
    At the critical value a metastable state is acheived, where whether the moon spirals inwards or outwards depends on the configuration of the continents.
     
  18. Trippy ALEA IACTA EST Staff Member

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    Hypocrit - you did the exact same thing to me.
     
  19. florian Debunking machine Registered Senior Member

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    Pardon me? Did I send you personal emails or pursuit you all other the internet revealing personal informations?
    I don't think so.
     
  20. Robittybob1 Banned Banned

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    I'll repeat the challenge:
    "let’s do the calculations WRT the Moons orbit, Earth orbits and the tidalites. Surely me must be able to identify the reasoning behind it.

    Right how was the Moon formed? Would a small Earth be able to capture it?
    What would happen if the Moon whacked into a small Earth?"

    How did the Moon form?
     
  21. Trippy ALEA IACTA EST Staff Member

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    You used what you thought was my name in this thread, and claimed to have tracked me down academicaly, so yeah, you did do at least some of that.
     
  22. wlminex Banned Banned

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    1. Conditions (assume 1kg mass)

    mass-----density-g/cc----- Material------------Calc. Vol (cc)

    1 kg ---- 5.2 g/cc--------- (Avg mantle)-------192 cc
    1 kg ---- 3.3 g/cc--------- (Avg Basalt crust)---303 cc
    1 kg----- 2.8 g/cc--------- (Avg sialic crust)----357 cc

    2. Assume a spherical 1kg mass, then calculate metrics:

    Material---d (g/cc)-----r(cm)------V (cc)----- A (cm^2)-----C (cm)

    Mantle----5.2----------3.58------192--------160.9--------22.49
    Basalt-----3.3----------4.17------303--------218.2--------26.18
    Sial Crust --2.8----------4.40------357-------243.4--------27.65

    Conclusion: Phase changes (higher density to lower density) increase radius (r)
     
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  23. wlminex Banned Banned

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    Note to last: . . . sorry tables did not post well . . . you can figure it out!
     

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