The Murder Of Rachel Corrie In Pictures

Discussion in 'World Events' started by Helen, Mar 17, 2003.

  1. Eli Z Registered Senior Member

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    Helen... Does the concept of unbiased sources familiar to you?
     
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  3. Helen Registered Senior Member

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    Excusing the murder of innocent is participation in it.
     
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  5. BloodSuckingGerbile Master of Puppets Registered Senior Member

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    The Israelis were also cowards in all the wars they've won, right?
    Tell me, if you have a tank, wouldn't you use it?
     
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  7. Helen Registered Senior Member

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    Do you mean th sources that tell us that despite having the 4th largest army in the world + 200 nuclear heads and $$$ billions of American dollars and yet Israel is afraid from the stone-throwers because they might endanger its existence ???????????

    Have a look at one of your ' credible' resources, he is the one which most of the israeli zionists rely on for their daily lies:

    http://www.hatewatchers.org/pipes/index.htm

    he is on HATE WATCHERS LIST....are you talking about him as unbiased sources ????
     
  8. Eli Z Registered Senior Member

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    That is simply false.
    The Palestinian authority governed 97% of the Palestinians in Gaza, Judea & Samaria.

    We value our lives and the lives of our soldiers. Unlike the Palestinians and Corrie, who somehow insist to waster their own lives for nothing.
     
  9. Helen Registered Senior Member

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    I would not use my tank against defenceless civilians.

    the word WON, is not suitable here, because without the American BILLIONS of Dollars you would not have existed so far.

    I think Hizbollah( small group of freedom fighters) have taught you how to win when they kicked you OUT from southern lebanon and made your mighty army run like salughtered chicken, they liberated their land.......they defeated you, this is what I call: COLOURFUL DEFEAT.
     
  10. VAKEMP Registered Senior Member

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    Given your logic, Helen, all of the land belongs to Israel!

    The Jews were there first, so doesn't this mean the Palestinians should leave?
     
  11. Eli Z Registered Senior Member

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    Would you die instead?

    I would like to remind you that all Arab states were also receiving their fair share of money, equipment and technology from the Soviet Union. That balances things.

    Defeat is not the correct term, but it's close.
    Basically I agree, though I see no reason to cheer their victory.
    I think it was Hasan Nasralla who said something along the lines of :
    "The Israelis will kill 5 of our men for every one they lose, but they will mourn their dead trooper, while we will cheer our five martyrs".

    If they degraded to such level of inhumanity. To such lack of concern for the lives of their own people and children. There is no value in victory.
     
  12. BloodSuckingGerbile Master of Puppets Registered Senior Member

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    I'm sorry to say, but that is plainly stupid. The IDF, unlike the Palestinians, care for their soldiers just a bit more. They're not disposable.

    The independance war was fought without any help from anybody. The planes the Israelis used were used old german Masserchmitts and anything they could lay their hands on was used as a weapon. They hardly had tanks back then.

    First, the Hizbollah is a group of Islamic terrorists.
    The hizbollah did not win. The IDF retreated from southern lebanon because of public opinion. People didn't want to send their sons to Lebanon, unlike the palestinians, who dress their sons like terrorists.
     
  13. wesmorris Nerd Overlord - we(s):1 of N Valued Senior Member

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    She was NOT an innocent. She was an IDIOT. She stood in front of a tank.
     
  14. Hannibal Registered Senior Member

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    I find this funny because the home the bulldozer demolish was 5 blocks away from my parents home, who home also demolished 30 years ago.
     
  15. Eli Z Registered Senior Member

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    Hannibal :

    I take it that you're a Palestinian? Where do you live now?

    It will be fascinating to hear your perspective. Hopefully you wont be spewing demagogy like AzCowboy and our dear Helen.

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  16. Amp Registered Senior Member

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    Murder she wrote.

    Its glaringly obvious it was murder, The dozer driver had much less restraint than the Chinese tank driver who let the student who laid down in front of his tank live at Tienamen Square. Also, as to the stats posted previously - more Palistinians have been killed whether children, women men or elderly by the Israelies who likely veiw them the same as slaves were once viewed in the US. Another thing the Palistinians are fighting Israel much the same way the early US settlers fought the British Red Coats, that is, not out in the open and with craft and guile.
     
  17. wesmorris Nerd Overlord - we(s):1 of N Valued Senior Member

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    granted, the jackass driving the tank shouldn't have killed her. hell, he might of thought he was just scaring her. he might have even thought that if the idiot had a lick of sense she would get the hell out of the way. it is sad that he killed her and sad that she was retarded enough to stand there and let him do it.
     
  18. Thor "Pfft, Rebel scum!" Valued Senior Member

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    Right, a few things struck me in this thread. Helen, as an unbiased outsider who doesn't give a f\/ck about what's happening there I can tell you that it seems you are the one who is a victim of Propaganda. The clever thing about Propaganda is that no-one really knows what they are being told is true or false, it's safer to assume that it is in fact true.
    As most of us here are outsiders, some from the US, some from Canada, some from the UK etc wouldn't we be getting unbiased accounts from both sides and be able to judge fairer? It's obvious that both the Palastine's and the Isreali's will lie about each other, they're more or less at war. Propaganda is a weapon, it is the most powerful weapon on this planet. Wars are won through it.

    Has the United Nations given the land to the Isrealites? If so doesn't that mean that they are not Illegally occupying land??

    And another thing, are these guys actually at war, has war been declared? I haven't heard anything about it. if not, why not?

    And to the original issue at hand. The "murder" of a peace protester. All I can think of is the scene in Austin Powers where the security guard is in front of the steam roller. I just can't figure out how anyone could be killed by a bulldozer. It's like being knocked down by an old lady running!! They go so slow she could've avoided it, and if it did hit her she could've easily rolled away. And if, as you say, the ground was wet, the bulldozer would be going slower.
    I think this is down to idiocy on the protestors part. She shouldn't even be in a warzone for a start!!
     
  19. Hannibal Registered Senior Member

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    I am Canadian born Palestinian whose parents immigrated to Canada after the 1967 war.

    LOL Don’t worry though, I am not your run in the mill Jew-hating Palestinian fanatic. I actually pit 99.9% of the blight of the Palestinian people on the betrayal of ignorant Arab leaders.
     
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  20. dkb218 Banned Banned

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    These petty rants...

    these petty rants will solve nothing. The problem is that the average US citizens see only one side of this story - that of israel. The palestinians are made to look like raving killers who teach their childern to kill, who'd rather see israel destroyed. This is not the truth my fine wooly sheep. If you are true to the crap that you write on this site, try and see the story from both sides - then and only then should any of you be writting anything. You won't find the palestine side in US papers {I wonder why that is bambi?} so do a little searching and find other sources of news. You can do that you know. You should not take Peter Jennings at face value. Look and find the truth. Become better people for your own sake.

    BECOME A REAL AMERICAN - remember that slogan - Truth, Justice, and the American Way! Make that crap mean something other than killing babies.
     
  21. Thor "Pfft, Rebel scum!" Valued Senior Member

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    God Bless America??

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