Men and their deteriorating moral and family values.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Greatest I am, Mar 13, 2012.

  1. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    Men and their deteriorating moral and family values.

    As members of Western democratic nation, we have witnessed a marked deterioration in morality and family values.

    Children start at an early age to sample the pleasures life offers them in the world of drugs, sex, autonomy and abuse of the safety nets that we as parents have put in place for them.

    They do these things because they see us, their parents, doing the same thing. We are reaping what we are sowing. It is impossible to keep our abusive adult activities from passing down to our children. They know all our little secrets and tricks and will continue to emulate us.

    Over time, looking at parents and our interaction with our children; especially today; the internet and other technologies have drastically reduced the parent child interaction. It is obvious to anyone with good judgement; collectively our morals and ethics have declined along with our family values.

    Proof of this lies in how we allow our children to dress and act.

    We are basically allowing our children, male and female, to look and act like skanks and whores.

    We are allowing or male children to run amuck and act like irresponsible bull studs with no responsibility for their illegitimate children. We men also facilitate the rampant drug us, both legal and illegal.

    Both men and women are to blame. Men, as the institutionally sanctioned heads of the family; must carry more blame. The world is not witnessing men stepping up to this responsibility. You, as a man are not walking your talk.

    As men, if we are to call ourselves true men, should consider doing so. Perhaps we can stop acting like spoiled children ourselves and start giving our children a good example.

    Women will also have to stop looking like and teaching their daughters to look like skanks and whores. We must stop teaching our children to idolize certain questionable entertainers who will do nothing but ensure a next generation of skanks and whores.

    Do you agree?

    Regards
    DL

    P S. Morality has a price. To increase ours will take wealth. Are our children worth it to us?

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/june-carbone/family-values-conservativ_b_922656.html
     
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  3. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Bullshit. People have been saying such things for 100 years.
     
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  5. arauca Banned Banned

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    This one of the nicest thing you have posted since I joined this sinking science boat.
    I agree with you in this post. my observation on the deterioration is since 1960 when the flower children were born . One individual that I would blame is the Famous Dr. Spack " Don't use a belt , talk to them , accommodate them " So here we are , this is the product. I have my own experience . Ine was treated with kids glows (become and pain ) the other was raised in discipline ( no problem ,( is bound to medical school )
     
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  7. arauca Banned Banned

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    Do you have an children ?
     
  8. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    People have been saying this since the 1700's. Heck, in the Middle Ages, women were sold to their husbands at age 14 with the blessing of the Church. We've gotten a bit better since then, IMO.

    In the 1700's it was smoking. In the 1800's it was alcohol. In the 1960's it was marijuana. Again, nothing much has changed.

    And women, who are traditionally the primary caregivers, are most responsible for the upbringing of children - and thus carry more responsibility for their behavior. If you want to use traditional roles, that is.

    Yes, it is not a good thing to teach your child to be a whore. But since every generation in recorded history has thought the next generation were irresponsible, hedonistic louts, I'm not too worried that we are in any more danger than we ever were.
     
  9. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    Yes. True statements tend to continue to be spoken.

    Regards
    DL
     
  10. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    Thanks.

    Regards
    DL
     
  11. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    The other times did not have birth controls and abortion and parents had to warn and protect their children, especially the girls quite a bit more.

    Today, parents just don't care enough about such because they and their children can bury their mistakes.

    Regards
    DL
     
  12. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    It sounds like someone is a tad bitter about the way their kid turned out and seeks to shift the blame from their own parenting to society.
     
  13. Rhaedas Valued Senior Member

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    That's hardly a requirement. Otherwise parents would be experts on children. Obviously this has never been the case for a majority of them.
     
  14. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    Your ears are defective. My four boys are doing quite well. Thanks for asking.

    We have had some good discussions on all the skanks and whores they knew in school though.

    Knew, not dated.

    Regards
    DL
     
  15. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    Sorry, I was reading the embeded post from arauca
    and attributed it to you.
     
  16. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Some perspective:

    Know who said that? Plato. 5 centuries before the birth of Christ.

    the more things change, the more they stay the same

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  17. Balerion Banned Banned

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    Ah, so this is just misogyny disguised as family values.

    And guys usually apply terms like "skank" and "whore" to girls who wouldn't sleep with them. Perhaps that will shine some light on why they knew them but never dated them.
     
  18. Cifo Day destroys the night, Registered Senior Member

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    Way back, when "modern" technology (aka factories) sprang into being, it did two things: #1 -- it took men away from their families all day long (who would have otherwise stayed on the farm), and #2 -- it made their employment independent of owning land (aka the family farm). Wife and children no longer saw husband/father work hard to support them, and they lost respect for him. When the husband is working the family farm, it's more difficult for the wife to divorce him. She and the kids must move out. When he no longer worked where he was living, it was so much easier to hand him his walking papers. And then it went downhill from there.

    Nowadays, women have zero need to stay married to their husbands and the father of their children. She can get rid of him, have him pay for everything, and have a different man in bed every night -- and our family court system doesn't even blink an eye. And to make matters worse, "modern" jobs have also taken mothers away from their families all day long. So they don't get as much respect from their children either.

    As Tom Arnold told Arnold Schwarzenegger in True Lies (1994) about Schwarzenegger's daughter, "You aren't her parents anymore, her parents are Axl Rose and Madonna, you can't compete with that kind of bombardment."

    This abomination has been evolving for the last few centuries.
     
  19. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    No problem.

    Regards
    DL
     
  20. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    Hardly. The used to venerate and cherish their children and try to protect them.

    Today, we do not care what happens to our children because we are centered on ourselves instead of them.

    Our technology has taken all of our time and parents hardly interact with their children anymore.

    Regards
    DL
     
  21. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    Yes.
    Thanks for the well thought out response.
    Refreshing and much better than-----problem, DUH what problem.
    We see 20/20.


    Regards
    DL
     
  22. Arioch Valued Senior Member

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    Does any supporter of this nonsense care to offer up any evidence to show that it isn't just another slippery slope fallacy? People have been saying this kind of shit about the next generation for as long as there have been people, though the specific complaints have changed, and every time the doomsayers were proven wrong. Painting your dog(or your complaint) blue and sticking odd bits on with glue doesn't change the fact that it's still a dog.
     
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  23. coupe2t Registered Member

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    I think the problems stem from people making choices of their own, which is always going to be the case.

    You can be the best parent you can be and teach your children everything you can and try to protect them, but they will still always make choices of their own. As a number of choices are made out of emotion at any given time, bad choices will always be made.

    Children used to be 'controlled' to an extent by physical beating, both at home and in schools, which meant children were scared to show they were mis-behaving, but you can be damn sure they still were.

    I know a LOT of people who were not good as kids, were troublesome, gobby, fought a lot etc, but now they have grown up they work, they have families, the support those families. It's not that the parents are focused on themselves, more that children push boundaries to see how far they can go, but most grow out of it, especially when they then have children and realise what their parents were doing and what they have to do now.

    Admittedly some of those kids I knew are not so much grown up, and some even dead, but every generation will have had the same issues IMO. They will continue to do so as well.
     

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