Consciousness is a magical property

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  1. Cortex_Colossum Banned Banned

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    A definition for consciousness

    God is real.
     
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  3. Crunchy Cat F-in' *meow* baby!!! Valued Senior Member

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    God told me that this thread is headed for the Cesspool.
     
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  5. Cortex_Colossum Banned Banned

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    So in other words you have nothing to refute my claim.
     
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  7. Rav Valued Senior Member

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    In other words, the quality of your contribution to this forum is below what is expected. When you start a thread in here, you're expected to put some effort into constructing a decent philosophical argument.
     
  8. Cortex_Colossum Banned Banned

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    Consciousness is God.
     
  9. Cortex_Colossum Banned Banned

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    And God is real.
     
  10. Rav Valued Senior Member

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    No it's not.
     
  11. Rav Valued Senior Member

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    And no he isn't.
     
  12. Cortex_Colossum Banned Banned

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    Yes, indeed God is real. I know Him through divine wisdom and codes.
     
  13. Literphor I is for ignorance Registered Member

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    What's the point of this thread Cortex_Colossum? It seems you have no intention of changing anyone's view with that lack of effort, are you instead trying to incite anger by being intentionally vague?
     
  14. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    God is not real

    I know she is not real through logic and common sense.

    Gee this is a great thread - it is essentially:

    uh huh.

    uh uh.

    uh huh.

    uh uh.
     
  15. Cortex_Colossum Banned Banned

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    Consciousness is a magical process

    What are your thoughts?
     
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  16. gmilam Valued Senior Member

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    Define "magical".
     
  17. Cortex_Colossum Banned Banned

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    Like mysteriously appearing.
     
  18. Balerion Banned Banned

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    There's nothing magical about it. How exactly it arises is still unknown, but we do know that it is a property of the brain, because damage to the brain can change our consciousness, or take it away altogether. A blow to the head can cripple you, take away your ability to recognize people. Certain brain traumas can drastically alter your personality--ie, the thing about that you is "you".

    So it's a property of the brain, we just can't really define it yet.
     
  19. C C Consular Corps - "the backbone of diplomacy" Valued Senior Member

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    A biological body emerges from existing precursors: Atoms, particles, attractive/repulsive fields that directly compose and hold it together. So are you trying to say that phenomenal consciousness emerges in a brute manner, that it doesn't incrementally follow from the rules, forces, and "building blocks" that precede it -- it doesn't even seem constituted of such but is like some "private space" of experiences that suddenly arises when certain functioning organizations or patterns of matter become the case? Is that the "mysterious" you are trying to fill with an anthropomorphic deity, as if there are no other possible options?

    Note that I don't reference other characteristics/behaviors that fall under the umbrella of "consciousness", because they've already been primitively replicated by computers and can hardly be claimed to not be instantiated by or constituted of publicly observed "stuff" and measurable agencies like electricity. An autonomous vehicle navigates through its environment -- that's at least an example of a kind of awareness transpiring, supposedly without private experiences or exhibited perceptual content.
     
  20. Cortex_Colossum Banned Banned

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    I am not thinking of an anthropomorphic deity but a God who has a more scientific plausibility.

    That's fascinating. Thanks.
     
  21. Saturnine Pariah Hell is other people Valued Senior Member

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    Consciousness, Sentient behavior or Self awareness are all biological phenomenon that have been shown to occur in other species, what makes humans so special to have this “supernatural” trait when multiple other animals posses it at well?

    mag·ic
       [maj-ik]

    noun
    1.
    the art of producing illusions as entertainment by the use of sleight of hand, deceptive devices, etc.; legerdemain; conjuring: to pull a rabbit out of a hat by magic.

    2.
    the art of producing a desired effect or result through the use of incantation or various other techniques that presumably assure human control of supernatural agencies or the forces of nature. Compare contagious magic, imitative magic, sympathetic magic.

    3.
    the use of this art: Magic, it was believed, could drive illness from the body

    http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/consciousness-animal/
     
  22. Saturnine Pariah Hell is other people Valued Senior Member

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    A more legitimate title would have been “Human Consciousness: "A Supernatural or Natural trait?”
     
  23. Rav Valued Senior Member

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    God doesn't do magic. He does (supra)natural (omni)science.

    You theists might like that

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