What is Love ?

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by hansda, Jun 8, 2012.

  1. hansda Valued Senior Member

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    Is it a physical force (of attraction) ; so that Newtonian principles can be applied to it ?

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    Is it a mental force ; so that quantum principles can be applied to it ?

    Or,

    Is it something beyond physical and mental things ; a purely philosophical subject , an eternal mystery ?
     
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  5. KilljoyKlown Whatever Valued Senior Member

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    Chemistry and a strong desire to have sex and if you've made a good choice real love has a chance to develop.

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  7. C C Consular Corps - "the backbone of diplomacy" Valued Senior Member

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    It's a synoptic term (concept) that humans invented to refer to or to group certain of their behaviors and relational bonds. With further classifications and distinctions subsumed under it (agape, eros, philia, storge, etc); it disambiguates into multiple kinds when one tries (tries!) to point-out concrete examples of it, as if it was instantiated as a localized entity or had its own bodyhood. Societies may not universally agree on its sub-categories or the interpretations / demarcations they make, however. Romantic love has been argued to be only a recent cultural construct of the West (less than a millennium).
     
  8. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    A chemical imbalance that gives rise to irrational behaviour.

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  9. Emil Valued Senior Member

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    Old faithful

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  10. Crunchy Cat F-in' *meow* baby!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Love is a dependency. Person A's happiness and well-being are dependent on Person B's.
     
  11. Epictetus here & now Registered Senior Member

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    As usual I agree with CC whom I much admire, but I wouldn't say I love.

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    The OP would do well too look up agape (see second definition), eros (see second definition), philia, and storge - which I have lovingly made easy for you here. Love is a many splendored thing. My own contribution to this thread is just the cynical observation that when a man tells a woman he loves her (or a woman says it to a man) s/he mostly really means s/he want to make the beast with two backs with her/him, and even if they marry and have children, this desire is always going to be a preeminent part of their relationship. If it evolves into another type of love, well and good, but I believe even that will fail if the physical attraction goes stale. It's like the artist Gary Newman's lyric: "I'm still confusing love with need."

    Love for a child, storge, I know to be quite real. From the moment my first was born, I thought of Prince's song I would die for you. Yes, certainly, and I understood that every parent back to the care-giving dinosaurs must feel the same. Suddenly I understood why so many love songs croon 'baby baby'. Suddenly I finally understood a character's motivation in so much song and story (the scientist making bombs for terrorists because they have kidnapped his daughter - Of course he would. Of course he would!) -Baby baby is a metaphor for the truest kind of love there is.

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    :bawl:

    And Crunchy Cat has got it right. The best definition I have ever heard of 'love' is when your own happiness depends on that of another.
     
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  12. hansda Valued Senior Member

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    Love is a mystery or chemistry ?

    Love has certain mysterious power which brings/moves things closer , so that the things can interact with each other . Out of these interactions , chemistry happens . Love becomes the prime cause for all types of interactions . So, if there is any kind of interaction , we can say some sort of love is happening there . So, there can be many types of love .

    Some loves money . Some loves power . Some loves fame . Whatever is one's love ; they try to move towards that . Love is the prime cause of dynamism.

    So, love is force . Love is energy and still love itself is a mystery .
     
  13. Crunchy Cat F-in' *meow* baby!!! Valued Senior Member

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    The answer is neither. I can already tell you are getting confused about the definition of love vs. how people use the word. Look at the definition in my last post. It is a psychological phenomenon.

    That isn't love that you are describing. Those are chemicals that temporarily go nuts in a person when they "fall in love"... which is an utterly different concept. This happens to make people more agreeable with each other long enough to have a greatly increased chance of procreation.

    Not really. A dependency is a dependency. Whether you have that dependency on a spouse, a child, a parent, a friend, etc. doesn't matter.

    This is incorrect. You cannot have a dependency on the happiness and well being of power and fame because they are not life forms capable of happiness or well being.

    People use the word "love" to mean very different things. In your examples the word is being used as substitute for "like a lot". For example, "I love ice cream" really means "I like ice cream alot"

    Incorrect on both accounts.
     
  14. hansda Valued Senior Member

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    You mean to say love is psychological phenomenon . That means , love is mental phenomenon . So love follows quantum principles as mind follows quantum principles .

    As per your definition , love is dependency . Then what is independence ?


    I was just trying to view LOVE in its broader perspective in a general way .
     
  15. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    Sexual attraction and romantic infatuation aside:
    Life is a trapeze act: you need a reliable catcher.
     
  16. Crunchy Cat F-in' *meow* baby!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Correct.

    Correct.

    That's not a very informative thing to say. All matter and energy follow quantum principles.

    You're joking right? Love is a dependency.

    Why generalize something that by its very nature is specific? All that will do is reduce your comprehension and open the door for subjective nonsense.
     
  17. Crunchy Cat F-in' *meow* baby!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Correct.

    Correct.

    That's not a very informative thing to say. All matter and energy follow quantum principles.

    You're joking right? Love is a dependency.

    Why generalize something that by its very nature is specific? All that will do is reduce your comprehension and open the door for subjective nonsense.
     
  18. Crunchy Cat F-in' *meow* baby!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Interesting, an edit turned into multiple posts. If a moderator sees this, please delete the first duplicate.
     
  19. TAMallick Registered Member

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    I believe that it is something beyond physical and mental things ; a purely philosophical subject , an eternal mystery.
     
  20. hansda Valued Senior Member

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    I am not joking . I am just trying to clarify . It seems we have lot of confusion with the idea of 'love' .

    That way i think LOVE is sharing . Sharing one's joy with others .
     
  21. Crunchy Cat F-in' *meow* baby!!! Valued Senior Member

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    That's only because people mean different things when they use the word and the context of a convsersation is intended to separate that.

    I would classify that as more of an annoyance. I don't particularly like other people unleashing their joy on me.
     
  22. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    All the same, animals with complex brains seem to share a capacity for affection.
    This could easily be dismissed as a biological necessity for birds and mammals, who need great quantities of tolerance, dedication, co-operation and perseverance to raise viable offspring in difficult environments.
    But the array of feelings we include in the psychological state "love" is not confined to mating and child-nurturing functions. In social species, it also manifests as convivial relations within a community and grows quite readily to intra- and inter-specific friendships, which are often intense and life-long. Nor does friendship between disparate species happen only in isolation from the same species, though such friendships appear to thrive in human-controlled domestic settings*. I posit that a sense of security - reliable food supply, few physical threats or alarms, low competition - makes emotional experimentation possible: produces high endorphin to adrenalin ratio.

    It seems to me that the more convoluted a brain, the more kinds of connection the animal is able to make; the farther it can imaginatively and emotionally reach outside of itself, its immediate environment, its own needs and experiences, and there recognize likenesses and complements to its own character in the character of others.


    *Or maybe those are the only ones we observe.
     
  23. too-open-minded Registered Member

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    Love is very complex emotion very noticeable in mammals and even Aves or birds. Their is an attraction their, evolution's sweet way of proceeding forward. Love is also mandated by cultural influence. Many people in individual cultures have their own interpretations and personal requirements to prove love.

    Love as we see it to evolve, has a connection with empathy. We see a puppy and it just looks so cute. We recognize other forms of life not just our own individual species as intriguing and beautiful. You see that baby animal and even though its not your species, you want it to survive and be happy. Love is the opposite of anger. Natures way of teaching us how to survive. Rage and adrenaline used to keep us alive but now natures telling us that logic and rationality should teach us to survive.
     
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