Consciousness is One

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  1. Genius Banned Banned

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    Although there are many selves we all share the same rudimentary consciousness. Therefore, consciousness is One.

    Thoughts/ ideas?
     
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  3. Rav Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe if we were in a Borg collective, Cortex.

    You might as well just say that any number of instances of anything are one. But what is achieved by that?
     
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  5. Genius Banned Banned

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    It would be flawed or illogical to assume that consciousness is many. It is also why the reality we perceive is one.
     
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    You could say the same for the design of our biological classification: from our shared earthly attributes, we are all of the same design, sharing the same access-point to perceptivity. Hence the nature of our attained perspectives are derived from the same persuasion. Yet, certain perspectives, albeit derived from human nature, can widely differ from an individual to the many—to such an extent that said individual will feel divorced from his community, his race, or even from his own species. What does that say about consciousness, huh?
     
  8. Genius Banned Banned

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    But to feel divorced from his species would be the height of delusion. An obfuscation of one's true nature.
     
  9. Ripley Valued Senior Member

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    For all we know, certain unique perspectives might compel certain people to feel that the majority is "delusional". Who'd be right? Depends on the perspective attained, right?
     
  10. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Apart from disagreeing with you, there is not much we can say.

    I actually agree with you, and I'd like to add that the ''one'' you speak of is (the concept) God.

    What say ye?

    jan.
     
  11. Genius Banned Banned

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    Yes.
     
  12. Genius Banned Banned

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    No, the one I speak of is that of consciousness.
     
  13. Buddha12 Valued Senior Member

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    You state one thing..."Although there are many selves"

    But say another..."Therefore, consciousness is One."

    So you can't have it both ways. Since there are "many" then there must be many thoughts going on about many things but in certain cases there is a consensus about one or two things that we all agree upon which would tend to suggest that only at that point are we in unity with each other.
     
  14. Genius Banned Banned

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    You are onto the truth except that we have individual physical selves with individual upbringing and intellect but we share one and only one consciousness, otherwise we would be perceiving separate realities.
     
  15. elte Valued Senior Member

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    I agree in the regard that civilization tries to educate everyone in the same things that we tend to agree upon as good and useful, but it takes conscious effort through means outside of ourselves, that is, physical interpersonal activity. Because of that, I could agree with the sentiment of collective consciousness in a figurative but not literal way. We aren't connected by ESP or anything like that.

    From another perspective, one might say we are connected by a common programing of DNA. I wouldn't call that collective consciousness, however.

    Welcome to the forum!
     
  16. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Nonsense! We currently have no way of connecting consciousnesses. That's why some people perceive things we do not, like the schizophrenic and the religious.

    In a sense, everything is one, but the illusion of consciousness creates information that is not shared.
     
  17. Genius Banned Banned

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    Evolution and natural selection has only evolved one consciousness required to perceive reality and the universe, the rest is separate physical entities and thoughts and beliefs such as those of the schizoid personality.
     
  18. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    What's the difference?

    jan.
     
  19. Rhaedas Valued Senior Member

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    If there was one consciousness, then you would understand our viewpoint that what you say makes no sense.
     
  20. Genius Banned Banned

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    You brought in the God concept whereas I never used it.
     
  21. Genius Banned Banned

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    No, you are talking about interpretations. If it made no sense then how can you give a meaningful response to it?
     
  22. wlminex Banned Banned

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    I'd recommend Carl Jung's . . . . Collective Comsciousness . . . . BTW: IMPO, there is a subquantum path that ties all individual conscioussness' to a single collective consciousness . . . . and yes . . . . it very likely is "God" . . . !
     
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  23. Genius Banned Banned

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    I would like to exclude "God" from this conversation and only invite Darwin.
     

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