Serial killer or mass murder

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  1. arauca Banned Banned

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    Generally they are white and with education why so ?
     
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  3. KilljoyKlown Whatever Valued Senior Member

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    There are serial killers in just about every country in the world and the more intelligent and educated they are the more successful they will be. Mass murderers tend to be people with a lot of authority (Hitler types). Spree killers seem to be mostly limited to those under 25 years old, and generally they end their spree by committing suicide (going out in a moment of glory). All three types of killers are very different from eachother and do what they for very different reasons. Ruthless leaders kill to intimidate others (it's tough to stand against someone if they'll just kill you and your loved ones to prove a point). Serial killers are your basic psychopaths and can have as many reasons for what they do the total number of serial killers. I think the spree killers have already decided to die, but for some reason they want others to feel their perceived pain or to shame their parents.
     
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  5. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    because you don't have all the facts, in this case you don't have the statistics on ALL the serial killers/ mass murderers since the dawn of humanity.
    some of the most brutal mass murderers were asian.
     
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  7. arauca Banned Banned

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    What ever you labile them ( in this country ) for what ever reason thy don't have respect for life and why does have to happen so many in the last 25 years
     
  8. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Beg pardon? That's profiling, that is.
     
  9. wellwisher Banned Banned

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    If you look at the liberal propaganda within public schools, isn't wealthy, white, male, heterosexual, christian the big five sources of evil throughout all of history? Men have put down women, white put down blacks, the rich steal from the poor, the heterosexual discriminates against the homosexual, and christians put down the atheist. If a little boy happens to be born with the evil-five, he is evil to the fifth degree, even if he did nothing to hurt anyone. He is given the guilt of original sin of five evils. It is in his soul at birth and can never be washed clean.

    At the same time, all the preferred demographics get a dual standard, regardless of behavior, that includes legalized discrimination. For example, quotas legally exclude the white male in a legalized racist sexist way. The propaganda will call it something else since the evil male, white, christian, rich, heterosexual, has to feel guilty for the stain of his original sin. The receipents of the favor, whoo may never have suffered anything, are legally entitled. They may even be the bullies, but this is different since only the carrier of the five-sins cannot be washed clean.

    Even if a particular white male never did anything, since he has the stereo-type of original sin for world wide evil, he is excluded from the gravy train, while not being allowed to associated in ways he might help himself; birds of a feather. There is nothing free for him. He is alone to struggle with life and with his guilt, for nothing he did.

    Some white boys can't carry the weight created by the propaganda, which begins the indocrination in the schools. This is why schools have become the target of the angry white boy. Depression is anger turned inward. To remove the depression he has to release the anger. The extent of the rage rerflects the extent of his inner pressure.
     
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  10. arauca Banned Banned

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    All that is fine but society have find a way that the anger and frustration should not be discharged upon other humans. A pill from psychiatrist will not give an instant solution, change to take place have to be spiritual so the individual can obtain pace within himself
     
  11. The Marquis Only want the best for Nigel Valued Senior Member

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    Spirituality is a coping mechanism as much as any psychiatrist's pill is.

    Instead, try fixing the problems.
     
  12. arauca Banned Banned

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    So how do you fix this problem . Putting more people into an institution ? Spirituality can be a way of life, pills you become an addict were you can not function without it.
     
  13. The Marquis Only want the best for Nigel Valued Senior Member

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    Oh, I'm just saying that one pill is as good as another.
    I don't have any answers. Well, none that anyone wants to know about, anyway.

    I simply don't see that not having an answer of my own is any reason to accept yours.
     
  14. river

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    You could start with communication between this person and the parents , without fear and judgment by the parents , just hear your son or daughter out and go from there

    Listen
     
  15. KilljoyKlown Whatever Valued Senior Member

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    That's a good question. In this country they get a lot of publicity and are very visible, so it seems like a lot. It could be happening a lot some place else and we just don't here about it. I really don't know with out doing more research and I'm not really up for it, if you know what I mean.
     
  16. The Marquis Only want the best for Nigel Valued Senior Member

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    It isn't that good.
    For a start, Mass or spree murderers and serial killers are often operating under completely different compulsions. Other than creating a thread to determine the difference, which would (should) be quite a short one, it is a mistake to try to determine the motivation behind both in a single discussion.

    The only other thing worth noting, without that distinction, is that there are indeed plenty of them in other places, and they do appear to be becoming more common.
    That last in italics because there are several reasons for that appearance.
     
  17. KilljoyKlown Whatever Valued Senior Member

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    The site below shows the murder rate per 100,000 people in all the countries of the world. There are many places worse than the US and many places better than the US. However I'm not sure murder stats reflect or even relate to the number of serial or spree killers in an area.

     
  18. TAMallick Registered Member

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    All of Serial killers are mentally ill. So counseling should mandatory in school, also it will be helpful for reducing suicide and all others Violence.
     
  19. arauca Banned Banned

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    And they should add the 10 commandments , they are good for Jews ,Christian , Muslim , Buddhism, and all other beliefs You can add other commandment that will benefit humanity.
     
  20. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    I heard an interesting in-depth report on American mass-shooters on the radio today. A number of researchers have looked at the stats over the last century and have come up with a number of common factors in these shootings. From memory, these include:

    • Mass shooters in the US are overwhelmingly white, and male almost without exception.
    • Most (75%+) of these killers had pre-diagnosed mental issues, e.g. schizophrenia or depression.
    • Semi-automatic handguns with large magazines were the weapon of choice of these killers, although semi-automatic rifles are not uncommon.
    • Most of these killers are underachievers (e.g. did poorly at school or dropped out).
    • Most of the killers evidenced a desire for the public fame (or infamy) they knew their actions would bring.
    • Many of the killers were suicidal. Most were not concerned about dying during or as a result of their shooting sprees.
    • The general rate of mass shootings has actually decreased along with the general crime rate in recent years, although 2012 bucked this trend.
    • Mass shootings occur disproportionately in the US along with other types of gun crime. This can only be put down to the easy and wide availability of guns in the US compared to other western nations.
     
  21. Buddha12 Valued Senior Member

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    You could ask the same thing about other ethnic groups too. Like why are there more African Americans in prisons than other groups in America?

    Why are the majority of illegal immigrants Hispanic?

    This type of profiling happens today beause law enforcement can do it for their own records.
     
  22. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Yes, and such questions are well worth asking. In the examples you gave, the reasons are quite different from the reason why mass-shooters in the US are overwhelmingly white males. But the answers to all your questions are illuminating.
     
  23. wellwisher Banned Banned

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    I look at serial killers as being driven by unconscious factors from within. In other words, they are considered mentally ill because the normal censor and connection to physical reality is broken, by unconscious projection and compulsion. They see what is not real, due to projection overlay, and tend to overreact because what they are reacting to, is different from reality. There is an unconscious filter that gives reality a dark hue of violence.

    Picture a crack head or junkie who needs more drugs. When they are in a bad way of withdrawal, they can become compulsive and violent, because the addiction/deprivation is generating potential within the brain. This potential can be lowered if they get money and can score. The serial killer is similar, but in this case personality firmware is generating the potential, as well as the time projection (sequence of steps), needed to create a sense of release of potential.

    A good experiment, you can do at home, is fast for several days. What will begin to happen is your hunger instinct will gain potential since it is not being expressed in normal fashion. Your imagination might become active with images of food, your sense of smell may start to get more acute for food, and there is a growing compulsion to eat. The serial killer has dammed up firmware, until the imagination is active and the compulsion appears.

    One things that can mess up the natural personality firmware, is law of good and evil. Law is binary data in that to know a law one needs to know both the good and evil side of the law, with these two sets of actions mutually exclusive. When memory is created the limbic system adds an emotional tag to memory. Law by being binary, will add two emotional tags per law (one for the good (security/rest/acceptance) and one for evil sides of the law (fear/punishment)). The binary law is stored in two connected locations (good boy and bad boy). If we try to do good and repress all the evil, because law is binary, the evil side of law continues to exist and can become unconscious. This polarization can impact the firmware.

    As an analogy, a simple magnet has two poles, north and south. If I only like north pole, and I can ignore south pole, but it will continue to exist, even if I ignore it, because magnetics need both poles. If we add a second magnet, its north pole would try to align with south and its south with north to cancel the potential; morally neutral.

    But law of good and evil, since it requires we use willpower to maintain the differentiation of good and evil, means we need to place north-north and south-south so we don't confuse the rules. This increases the potential of the combined magnetic. As more and more magnets appear, the magnetic gets stronger, which means south pole gets stronger even though repressed. When a firmware is active, the impact of the magnetic field of binary law is a deflection; alters the path. The goal of law is to deflect impulse down paths that are more conducive to culture.

    The serial killer who killed the children in Connecticut, by killing children tells of his wall. Symbolically, killing the children was a projection, for him to end a childhood repression. But since he was not conscious of this, he assumes the projected content was reality and acted upon the impulse generated by the firmware deflection. We are not taught internal reality or projection, but only external reality. He acted based on the bias of this conditioning since the other does not exist.
     

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