‘The Catalogue of Anti-Male Shaming Tactics’

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  1. Kholdstare Banned Banned

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    As I've stated before, shaming tactics have no effect on me and here is the reason. This article written in an anti-feminist blog describes the anti-male shaming tactics spewed by feminists and white knights (men who support feminism).

    ‘The Catalogue of Anti-Male Shaming Tactics’
     
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  3. Bebelina kospla.com Valued Senior Member

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    Hm, well, those are all common words around here, used freely at any occasion towards both male and females. Here they call it intelligent debate.
     
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  5. Balerion Banned Banned

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    Why are men who support feminism called "white knights?" Why can't they be feminists?

    The misogyny in that example isn't so subtle.
     
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  7. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    To OP,

    "And your point is?"
    Are you posting this to promote some agenda? are you posting this because you want a rise? Either case all I see is a bunch of word-salad with some key phrases aimed at people due to an agenda. (or is that Agenderer? or Agrogenderer?)

    In any sense what is your actual point or focus exactly?
     
  8. Arioch Valued Senior Member

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    @Balerion --

    Love it!

    Personally I've never understood why such a distinction would be made either. It smacks of double standards to me.
     
  9. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    A Reservation of Incivility as Phallic Privilege

    The topic post propaganda simply reminds that these proud chauvinists have nary a clue what they're on about.
     
  10. Kholdstare Banned Banned

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    They are feminists.

    In this thread I said I'd explain why shaming tactics do not work on me.

    So, I did. I posted the article because it explains the topic way better than I ever could.

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    As far as I know, the author of that article has every clue of what he is talking about. And so do I.
     
  11. youreyes amorphous ocean Valued Senior Member

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    OP, currently it is not social/popular to talk about mens' rights. The newspapers and media are not interested in this.
     
  12. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Really.

    "Cause although he got the message he was deaf to the news:
    There are no chicks in Santa Cruz"

    The media around my town are full of discussion of men's rights. It's just that they call them "human rights", "civil rights", "veteran's rights", etc, while failing to extend them quite all the way to women for some reason. It is not really popular to point this out, which talking about "men's rights" tends to do.
     
  13. turk Registered Member

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    Hilarious! I feel sorry for anyone who has that much trouble with women. If I were hearing all these different things, I'd sign up for therapy!
     
  14. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    Something About the Obvious

    Girls With Guns

    Just ... thbpbpbpbt! Yeah.

    Tommy Shaw, "Little Girl World" (Girls With Guns)

    The young girl says no to her fumbling beau, and she can't help from wondering why. And how she might feel if she ever revealed the love she so carefully hides. So she hides—

    She hides in her little girl world. Safe from the forces that make her give in; safe from the boy who tries time and again, and goes home.​

    He mother said wait, from the time she turned eight, for the right man would someday appear. And don't you give in to those fast-talking men, they'll just love you and leave you, my dear. So she hides—

    She hides in her little girl world. Safe from the forces that make her give in; safe from the boy who tries time and again, and goes home.​

    Where's the rainbow? She stares out from the room: Where's my prince on his white horse? Lord, I hope he comes soon.

    And the boy comes; the boy goes. And nobody else really knows what she knows—she won't say, but she knows that he'll be back on the very next day. So she hides—

    She hides in her little girl world. Safe from the forces that make her give in; safe from the boy who tries time and again, and goes home.​

    But he'll be back again. He'll be back again.

    I wonder why that song suddenly comes to mind?

    [video=youtube;zbHdaGN2uRU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbHdaGN2uRU[/video]​
     
  15. youreyes amorphous ocean Valued Senior Member

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    A little innocent girl is an easier image to grasp for social acceptance rather than a working tired man. There never was, gender equality. The world tends to go from one chasm of social gender acceptance to another chasm. A world where men once dominated and had the upper hand had been overturned by the "new era" where women now have more rights and are protected. The problem is a repeating cycle for many civilizations, it is like a civil war or a virus of the society. A sex war, over who is strongest and toughest and most innocent and most beautiful.

    I wish...for acceptance of the fact that gender was never meant to be equal and for the respect towards both sexes.\

    Girls with Guns and Men with Roses.

    Girls with Roses and Men with Guns.

    ...She holds not a teddy bear, but a grenade. He holds not a grenade, but a teddy bear. Behind each mask is another mask.

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    Be swayed by each perspective, take side to each argument, in a war that has been going on since the beginning of human civilization.
     
  16. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    This and That

    Oh, do be certain to let us know, then. I very much look forward to that.

    See, the thing is that the article author's perception—and, apparently, yours—of what constitutes "anti-male shaming", seemingly somehow derived from arguments against the notion of "slut-shaming" and other chauvinistic language, attends different criteria than the problematic language directed toward women. Furthermore, as I alluded previously, the list actually seems a compendium of excuses for poor individual behavior.

    I mean, the thing is so pointedly wrong that it reads like cheap satire, as if the author is trying to make the idea of "anti-male shaming" into a joke.

    Except when one finally tracks back to the organization that allegedly posted the "catalogue" originally, it would seem they are, indeed, quite serious.

    Besides, most of that list of "anti-male shaming" needs to be discussed among men insofar as if it's really so emotionally damaging, I can't figure out why men say so many of those things to one another.

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    That's ... like ... really profound, man.

    But it is also wrong insofar as your post tells me far more about your view of the broader issue than anything else.

    That song ... it really is strange; as far as I know nobody can figure out if Tommy was making fun of Dennis or what, but it's awful, as if reinforcing Tommy's point about rock and roll versus mushy love songs, or ... well, that's just it. I always made a joke, based on his haircut for the album cover photo, that it was a tragic byproduct of cocaine and musical stardom.

    But, ultimately, the song is tragic. That much should be obvious.

    In this case, though, it reflects on the question of the white knight, which is a term intended to denigrate women as being incapable of expressing themselves properly and needing a code-bound man to ride up and rescue her.

    Whatever the song actually means, it's an incredible reflection of attitudes in the 1980s.
     

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