Should we respect all traditional, cultural and religious norms?

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by Bells, Sep 12, 2013.

  1. quinnsong Valued Senior Member

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    We were to talking about circumcision(mutilation) of female genitalia specifically, we were not talking about the plethora of other reasons someone may or not be happy sexually.Sex is certainly not the only reason to stop FGM but is a valid one, whether you agree or not. To deny a young woman the pleasures of sexual enjoyment is actually reason enough but of course to you this is a strawman.
     
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  3. Coltephilos Registered Member

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    No. Marrying and having sex with an eight year old is wrong, wrong, wrong. The child's prefrontal cortex isn't even properly developed, thus rendering her as incapable of rational decision making. What a despicable "tradition".

    As another claimed, it is not so much about tradition as it is about perverted men who use it as an alibi to fulfill their paedophilic desires.
     
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  5. arauca Banned Banned

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    Please find were is written in the New testament that Christian should be circumcised, I know you like to attack religion. To give some validity to your argument . you should check if those circumcised Christians are not converted Muslim or Jews converted to Christianity . Then the other part You should check with the secular community as why they induced the circumcision to boys in the western world ?
     
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  7. Aqueous Id flat Earth skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    You do realize that Christians include the Old Testament in their Bibles.
     
  8. Coltephilos Registered Member

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    Most devout Christians haven't even read The Old Testament. Those that did only read the "nice bits".
     
  9. libiya Registered Member

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    Obviously not lol
     
  10. arauca Banned Banned

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    I do realize . Well I assume The African Christian are followers of the Western Christian missionary I doubt they will encourage circumcision .
     
  11. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    I've never quite understood the religious reasoning for/against circumcision, from a biblical standpoint?
    Why was it such a big deal? When I was a zealous bible reader, I glossed over that section because I thought it was odd that God would care one way or the other.
     
  12. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    And if ugly people were to protest because nobody loves them and they are denied sexual pleasures - you would find that ridiculous?
     
  13. quinnsong Valued Senior Member

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    At least ugly people CAN get sexual pleasure and I will let you figure that out. Please enough with the cherry picking.
     
  14. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Jews were all about ritual bathing. Personal cleanliness was seen as a reflection of spiritual purity. And the foreskin can lead to certain... complications in that area.
     
  15. quinnsong Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, but if Jews were all about personal cleanliness then hoodies should not have been a problem. God was just rethinking his earlier work if you ask me.
     
  16. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    If I were a man, I wouldn't want the 'hoodie.'' Just sayin' lol

    @ spidergoat, often rituals/cleanliness issues morphed into religious tenets. Always found that odd.
     
  17. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but going with your hypothetical, an uncircumcised, ''ugly'' woman could still pleasure herself, for lack of a better phrase. A circumcised woman cannot, so...your comment doesn't hold water in terms of physical pleasure, alone. There are exceptions, but a large number of women don't climax through intercourse alone. But, some do. If a woman doesn't have a sexual partner in her life, and she is circumcised, ''ugly'' or ''beautiful''...she's shit outta luck.

    What's not being said here, is that sex isn't the end-all-be-all to our existence. But, these young girls are having their sexuality, stolen from them. That's the problem. As if sexual pleasure is taboo. Comparing it to an unattractive person having a tough time getting laid, is comparing an apple to an orange.
     
  18. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    oops. I should have read this first.

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  19. quinnsong Valued Senior Member

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    Well that is it then God is not a he!
     
  20. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Lol

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  21. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    It's enough to find one weakness in an argument to show that it is weak.


    The same is happening in modern Western culture. Modern norms on sexuality are also extremely rigid.
    "Have sex on such and such terms, or be branded as abnormal."


    It's taboo in modern Western culture as well, even though it deems itself so open-minded and liberal and all that.
     
  22. Robittybob1 Banned Banned

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    What would you be proposing? Twerking didn't go that well among with the women on TV. So is that out?
     
  23. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    I'm proposing that people look into their own ideas about what is necessary for them to be happy.

    If one needs the whole world to change before one can be happy, then one is very poorly off.
     

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