Insulting Religion

Discussion in 'Religion' started by (Q), Nov 18, 2013.

  1. Ogdon Banned Banned

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    If you are equating spirit with consciousness then yes, science will never be able to duplicate it no matter how much the brain is studied and how many facts about it are logically inferred. However, if consciousness is based within the physical then no, science will one day be successful at fully duplicating it. And perhaps even the reality of spirit may be duplicated. A piece of God within every advanced piece of AI technology? Perhaps.
     
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  3. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    There are lots of things we don't know, it's no shame to admit that. But if you resort to magic to explain it, it's like pretending to know something you don't know.
     
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  5. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Not sure, just yet, but I'll have millions of years and many generations of prototypes to work on it. If nature can do it, so can I.
     
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  7. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    I would agree, not much exciting about not having a belief in magical super beings. That's why we would much rather turn our attention to reality, because it has far more interesting things than whatever a brain dead believer can imagine.
     
  8. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Nature has created it, and that's all that matters. Religions are trying to destroy it.
     
  9. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Well, not it, but I take your outrage.
     
  10. Ogdon Banned Banned

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    You're a stain who knows nothing about reality.
     
  11. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Wow, you managed to form an entire sentence without using 'shyat mua fuaaaaa'. Impressive.
     
  12. Mazulu Banned Banned

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    You can certainly try to program a computer to act human, but does it have a consciousness? Do you even know what consciousness is? Do you even know what you're trying to prototype?
     
  13. Mazulu Banned Banned

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    Religions are trying to destroy consciousness? What does that even mean?
     
  14. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Sorry, I was referring to the brain.
     
  15. Mazulu Banned Banned

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    How does religion destroy the brain? Destroy it how?
     
  16. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    Fear. Shame. Control.
     
  17. Mazulu Banned Banned

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    I never experienced any of those things as a Spiritualist or as a New Ager. I only experienced hope, wonder encouragement, love, kindness, caring...
     
  18. Balerion Banned Banned

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    That's a lie. You show almost nothing but fear and hatred on this forum, so your religion isn't helping, if it isn't directly causing it.
     
  19. Dazz Registered Senior Member

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    @Mazulu
    Wouldn't consciousness be something closely related to this?

    If so it can be recreated with AI considering every single of each one of the factors presented on the above quotation. But still...
    As defined on dictionary.com
    1. the state of being*conscious
    ; awareness of one's own existence, sensations, thoughts, surroundings, etc.2. the thoughts and feelings, collectively, of an individual or of an aggregate of people:*the moral consciousness of a nation.3. full activity of the mind and senses, as in waking life:*to regain consciousness after fainting.
    http://m.dictionary.com/definition/consciousness

    Going for item after item, on these descriptions in there, how would we recreate a consciousness?
    1. Making the bearer of the object -consciousness- aware of the definition of conscious/conscience.
    2. Once it is aware of that, make the object tangible and understanble in a practical way.
    3. Make understandable/attainable the definition of existence.
    4. Making the bearer of the object comprehend/attain the meaning of existence, thus geting self-conscious.
    5. Make the bearer of the object attain comprehension of his reality, where he is/belong.
    6. Make the bearer of the object aware of his surroundings in a material way. His physical world.
    7. Make the bearer aware that he is now sentient.
    8. Make the bearer aware that the other sentient bearers around it also are conscious.
    ...... LOONY ISN'T IT? That's how it goes by AI. Crazy stuff is crazy...
    Oh and sorry to interrupt any ongoing argumentation, please go on yes, yes...
     
  20. Ogdon Banned Banned

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    hahahhaa! Staaaain!
     
  21. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    Mazulu, the other Mazulu Posted this Thread : http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?127098-Glad-I-don-t-have-this-job

    Mazulu, is that other Mazulu not a "Spiritualist" or a "New Ager"? Maybe that Mazulu is a Theosophist!
     
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  22. Syne Sine qua non Valued Senior Member

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    Easy. Omnipresence. There is no "other".
     
  23. Capracus Valued Senior Member

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    Omnipresent what?
     

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