The nature of human is good or evil?

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by Saint, Dec 5, 2013.

  1. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    The nature of human is good or evil?
     
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  3. Daecon Kiwi fruit Valued Senior Member

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    It's different for everyone.

    Some people are good by nature, others are evil by nature, and the rest are neutral by nature with their society and upbringing deciding which side wins.
     
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  5. Mazulu Banned Banned

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    Both.
     
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  7. wellwisher Banned Banned

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    Good and evil is not innate but is a function of law of good and evil. Before law of good and evil, humans were neutral like in nature. Laws require that we know both sides of the law; the good path and the evil path. The good side tells us how we should act, while the evil side shows us what to avoid. If we try to do good, the evil side of the law is still in memory, since it is implicit of this binary data.

    As an analogy, consider a coin. It has two sides; heads and tails. The coin is one thing, but implicit in the coin is two sides. You can only see one side at a time, but the opposite side is still there, even if we can't see it. If we try to do good, the evil side gets repressed and unconscious because it is out of sight but is still stored data since law is binary data.

    The net result is periodic unconscious impulse, which can either cause transgression into evil, or it can create an awareness of the evil in others via projection. If I hold the coin up and look at heads, the other guy will see the tails of my coin. If I am self righteous and it can give a feeling of negativity to another. Atheism projects evil onto religion this way.

    Since law is a binary, it actually helps to teach evil by teaching good. If it says you cannot longer use the cell phone to hack into a computer using this simple algorithm, it shows you how to use the algorithm for hacking computers. Those who never heard of this, by learning the law, learn how to do it, because the law shows them, thereby assuring new business for lawyers and law enforcement.

    To overcome evil, you need to deprogram yourself of a wide range of law inductions that show you how to do evil so you can become perfect by doing the opposite or good.
     
  8. andy1033 Truth Seeker Valued Senior Member

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    Humans tune into a force or energy that is what we call evil. Science already knows this, but does not tell you, as it would confirm the garden of eden story and they do not want that.

    But govs know this and use it to control the masses as much as humanely possible.
     
  9. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    Actually, despite what has been said to the contrary, it truly is neither. The most basic instinct in the human is self-survival - which results in greed out of need.

    Consider the human baby and it's need for food in order to survive. It will share only when outside force is applied. This instinct REMAINS active until parents/society pressure it to diminish. An only child will never share anything unless/until it it is forced to accept that type of behavior. In a few individuals it persists into adulthood despite attempts to train it.
     
  10. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    Well human beings are born out of the womb, and live in a world where are trees grow from poop. Both very nasty, so we might be cursed. :/
     
  11. andy1033 Truth Seeker Valued Senior Member

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    Read only- people are given a mind to be able to judge for themselves. A person can choose to starve to death if they want. Humans are mainly separate from nature, because of self. So applying what animals do to humans is not very correct.

    Your trying to apply animal instincts to humans, but humans can choose to die if they want and not eat, plus they can choose to stay a virgin if they want and die without procreating.
     
  12. Number 9 Bus Shelter Registered Member

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    Good or bad is relative
     
  13. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    The comparison of animals to humans fits far better than you realize - but the rest of what you said has little to do with this topic.
     
  14. arauca Banned Banned

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    You were so anxious about science . I posted you about Estrogen were is produced , your answer was Google , but the is other part of the body which produces the hormone. so go back to science and I can site the article for your information.
     
  15. wellwisher Banned Banned

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    Evil is defined by law. While law, by defying the evil, also teaches us how to be evil. For example, in 1900, marijuana was morally neutral since there was not yet a law or prohibition to declare it evil. Once the law was created, now the evil is define. Humans were not born with a gene, that was turned on, in the 1920's, which made them evil by smoking marijuana. It was laws of men defining the evil in the 1920's. Those who never heard of MJ, learn about it from the law, since one needed to know what not to do.

    What makes it appear like humans have innate evil (called original sin) is all cultures define a continuity with the past. Once you become indoctrinated in any culture, this continuity can be traced to laws of good and evil or knowledge of good and evil, which then plants the binary data in subtle ways that shape us in that way.

    Here is a good application. The democratic party is more feminized than the republican party which more masculine. According to ancient traditions, the female element (Eve), likes to eat of the tree of good and evil or law. She will then try to get the male to eat. If ancient observation was true, one would expect the democrats to make the majority of the laws. This is observed.
     
  16. Mazulu Banned Banned

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    So molesting children is OK under some circumstances? Is that what you're arguing? What about incest? What about rape? Or murder? Or stealing? I would think that morality has something to do with not harming other people.
     
  17. Dazz Registered Senior Member

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    Neither good nor bad. But we have a despondence for both and, our conceptions of "good" and "bad" are quite subjective and flaw, i'd say.
     
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  18. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    Mazulu, how, pray tell, did you read that from the 5 simple words that Number 9 Bus Shelter Posted???!!!

    Mazulu, only 1 of the words contain more than 1 syllable...and it only contains 3!!

    Your reading comprehension skills need a little working on...to say the least!

    Mazulu, you should be asking your self exactly what Mazulu is arguing!!

    Other Posters have asked, but Mazulu can not ever quite provide a real answer...but PREACH...Mazulu can surely PREACH...and FAIL...then jump threads...and REPEAT
     
  19. Mazulu Banned Banned

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    So murder, rape and child molestation are all OK in your opinion. That's what you're really arguing. Are you a supporter of Adolph Hitler and Ghengis Khan too? Please clarify what you mean.
     
  20. Dazz Registered Senior Member

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    Are we talking about rape or any othe crimes to begin with? If YOU want to imply that raping children and murder are OK do it for yourself and do not deturpate the words of the fellow posters around here.
     
  21. Mazulu Banned Banned

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    No, I think rapists and child molesters should be shot. It is wrong, very wrong, in an absolute sense, to rape children. But in this world of moral relativity, your lawyer can argue anything and some stupid jurist will let you off. Moral relativity is a stupid idea that numbskull atheists came up with because they have no innate sense of right and wrong.
     
  22. Number 9 Bus Shelter Registered Member

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    Yes, I'd like to talk about science. But start a decent thread. Your thread doesn't lead to any discussion, just to a simple answer.

    You are completely missing the point once again.
     
  23. Mazulu Banned Banned

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    Moral relativity means that if I can convince enough of the authorities and lawmakers that atheists should be put to death (for harming our civilization), then I can argue: well, hey, the law says I can do it.

    But I know in my heart, based upon absolute morality, that atheists have a right to free speech. Even if what they have to say is stupid.
     

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