The Pros and Cons of Socializing online

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by Neostarwcc, Dec 8, 2013.

  1. Neostarwcc Registered Member

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    Hello, I'm doing a report on Online Communication through forums,Skype, Facebook ..etc and their scientific Equivalencies.


    I was wondering what has been proven and dis-proven by science when comparing or replacing the two. A Google Search has given nothing. I'm using myself as a test subject and for the basis of the report since almost 100% of my Socialization is through Online Media.


    My problems with the report:


    - How Online Socialization affects ones Face to Face Communication. Most people/scientists think that people "hide" on the internet because they cannot handle Face to Face communication. When testing myself though, I have no problems Socializing with Face to Face. My verbal socialization skills are excellent I just don't/can't use them because almost all of my Social Group would rather socialize online or while using laptops during which, Face to Face Socialization happens. So I was wondering what Scientific articles existed on this and why I would be "one of the few" that don't get this.

    - Whether or not Online Socialization can lead to Telephobia (I have this). I can recieve phone calls and talk on the phone just fine, but I can't call you without getting SEVERE Anxiety. This also happens during voice chat if I don't know you. You can "call" me and I'm fine but I have a really hard time "calling" you.

    - Whether or not Online Socialization can lead to Social Anxiety Disorder (I have this). Like i said, my Face To Face communication skills are fine. I can talk to both strangers and people I know fine, but I have to flee in large crowds and cannot attend events with large crowds like parties or conventions. I cannot go out in public most of the time due to this.

    - How Online Communication is comparable to the Telephone Scientifically speaking. When I say Online Socialization I'm mostly talking about voice chats which is why I'm comparing it with the telephone.

    - How Online Communication can lead to premature death. I've been told that Online Communication . I'm not talking about being sedimentary for long periods of time everyone knows that will lead to premature death, but that it counts as being "Antisocial" and can shorten a persons average lifespan by almost 9 years. But I haven't found any articles or studies backing this claim up it's all been "word of mouth".


    Basically any studies and scientific articles would be helpful. I've been unable to find really much of anything on this particular subject.
     
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  3. Buddha12 Valued Senior Member

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    Why not do your own research to find what you need out.
     
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  5. andy1033 Truth Seeker Valued Senior Member

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    Put it this way, even though at 38 years old i have not talked verbally to anyone in 13-14 years, i have never once tried to talk to anyone online, in any social site. Apart from online boards which i do not count as communication, i would never interact with others on any social network, and would never join any social site.
     
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  7. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    I don't know how to break this to you but -

    You are posting on a social site.
     
  8. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    This isn't a social site.
    It's hardcore science.
     
  9. elusive Registered Member

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    I am interested in understanding why you have not verbally talked to anyone in 13 or 14 years particularly if its not a physical reason it just doesn't make any sense to me and I'd like to know to understand if you don't mind sharing that.

     
  10. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    I would be leery of any "expert" analysis of a phenomenon as new as online socializing. The medium itself changes to a new form every few years. Originally all we had was e-mail. Then sites like AOL appeared, allowing people to create forums for their own special interest such as science fiction or bird breeding. Then entire websites sprang up dedicated to a narrow interest, like poetry.

    [At this point I have to interrupt, and note that a very happily married couple I know actually met on a poetry site! Pretty much anything can happen with a new technology.]

    Now we have things like Facebook that allow everybody to post photos of cute kittens. (Anyway that seems to be all people do there.) And we have things like LinkedIn, and I have absolutely no idea what it's for. All I know is that when one of the managers in my company invites me to Link to him, I'd better do it.

    But somewhere along the way our telephones became computers so we can do all this on screens the size of a wristwatch, typing on keys the size of sesame seeds. The only effect of text-messaging, as far as I can tell, is to give people another new way to cause road accidents. I live by the profound statement from one of the characters on "Boondocks" a few years ago: "Nothing worth reading was ever written by a man who was typing with his thumbs."

    Anyway, to be serious again, I offer the story of my grandfather, a pharmacist who ran his own drugstore in Chicago in the 1910s. One day a representative of the telephone company came in and offered to install a phone in his store for free. He admitted that it would be a great marketing gimmick for his company, but it would also be good for Grandpa because his customers could phone in their orders.

    Grandpa sent him packing. His reason? "Don't be ridiculous. People will never be comfortable transacting business with somebody they can't see."

    That didn't work out the way he predicted.

    So what about all the sociologists and technologists who think they can predict how online communication will evolve, and what effect it will have on us?

    They don't know shit!

    That was my study. Hope it helps.

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    Perhaps the reason you can't find much on this subject is that people have gotten more wary about making predictions about new technologies.

    Just imagine what they must have said about writing, 5,000 years ago!
     
  11. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    Pro you can meet someone nice.
     
  12. Gage Registered Senior Member

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    Now how is that even possible??
     
  13. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    I think you meant "orally." "Verbal" simply means "using language," as opposed to charades or smoke signals. "Verbal language" includes both speaking and writing, and there's argument over whether something like American Sign Language also qualifies, since it is, after all, a language.

    You are communicating with us verbally right now.

    Yes, some people misuse the word "verbal" to mean "oral," and get away with it, but why support their bastardization of our language?

    I'm curious about how and where you live. You'd almost have to be in a cave in Alaska in order to never have to talk to another human being. If someone says, "Excuse me," "Thank you," "Have a nice day," "Do you want fries with that?" "Is this where the #5 bus stops?" or "Your fly is open," do you just grunt rudely?
     
  14. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    See.
    This is what happens when he speaks.
    People start correcting him.
    If it's another 14 years before he speaks again, you are to blame Fraggle.
     
  15. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Of course. And I noted VictorEspinoza has posted his latest based-on-science invention. That one had a piston in it so it is definitely hardcore science.
     
  16. VossistArts 3MTA3 Registered Senior Member

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    So, you are only interested in having people potentially point you in the direction of published science oriented articles? Are you interested at all in reading about peoples personal experiences and observations? I would think the latter could help create a much better paper for you in general. Of course it's your preference. Although I havent participated much on this site in some time, in the past I was aware that there are some incredibly intense minds communicating here. I honestly can't imagine doing much better than that.
    As for andy1033's statement. I too find that interesting. I cant place any kind of judgement on it, I just find it fascinating. I'd love to know how someone could live so long without going out into the public, talking to a grocery clerk, a physician, anyone. On the other hand we have to consider that perhaps he is deaf and/or unable to speak or just simply unwilling to use spoken language for whatever reason or another. People experiencing physical or emotional issues or even ones who have some kind of philosophical motivation for living this way certainly do exist and are able to function in the world. I'd be interested in more details, Andy, if you dont mind.
    August
     
  17. The Marquis Only want the best for Nigel Valued Senior Member

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    I'm.... going to give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume here that you were trolling.
    And that's only because you built a cool car once.
     
  18. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    http://truecenterpublishing.com/psycyber/psycyber.html
     

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